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Old 06-04-2009 | 01:41 AM
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No, mine is NOT an X51....Notice my torque is also a bit better.
Old 06-04-2009 | 09:29 AM
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Im with Darren here. My GTB car's last motor dynoed at 308,309 and 307HP on a Dyno Jet dyno and its NOT an X51 either. I'll be dynoing the new motor in the next couple of weeks.
Old 06-04-2009 | 10:04 AM
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Here are my results.

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...ith-graph.html

No X-51

Originally Posted by Darren
No, mine is NOT an X51....Notice my torque is also a bit better.
Old 06-04-2009 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Darren
Are all dynos created equal

2002 non-X51 996 with no mufflers and CAI:

Is it too early for me to be looking at this ..... or do I see HP/TQ cross at 6700 RPM ?
Old 06-04-2009 | 11:46 AM
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I didn't really think about it, why do you figure mine crosses so much higher up in the rpms?
Old 06-04-2009 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by onefastviking
Is it too early for me to be looking at this ..... or do I see HP/TQ cross at 6700 RPM ?
Different scales. If you place tq-curve to hp-scale too, they'll cross at 5250.
Old 06-04-2009 | 12:45 PM
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Oh right I fixed that. Also for comparison's sake I changed the smoothing to 3 and correction factor to SAE like the original post (eek I lost 10 hp!)

Old 06-04-2009 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TIM COSTA
Im with Darren here. My GTB car's last motor dynoed at 308,309 and 307HP on a Dyno Jet dyno and its NOT an X51 either. I'll be dynoing the new motor in the next couple of weeks.
So - are we coming to some agreement that 3.6s are generally putting out closer to 340-350 hp at the crank, maybe even more?

I have a replacement 3.6L in my 2002 with about 10k miles since replacement - it pulls noticeably better than the former engine. I generally can hold my own with any 3.8L C2S on the track in the straights.

These cars are awesome....
Old 06-04-2009 | 02:27 PM
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So - are we coming to some agreement that 3.6s are generally putting out closer to 340-350 hp at the crank, maybe even more?
I doubt that, but who really cares what it is at the crank? People always say silly things like "add 20% drivetrain loss" I have no idea where they get those stats from. Unless you pull the motor out of the car and run it on a motor dyno, it's irrelevant.
Old 06-04-2009 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Darren
I doubt that, but who really cares what it is at the crank? People always say silly things like "add 20% drivetrain loss" I have no idea where they get those stats from. Unless you pull the motor out of the car and run it on a motor dyno, it's irrelevant.
Yep, agreed. But I do like to think that compared to front-engine cars (man, that's just wrong), our cars lose a lot less power to the drivetrain... I was coming up with a relative figure of about 15% difference.... but then again you're right, who really cares that much?

Thanks for the thoughts.
Old 06-04-2009 | 05:30 PM
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I have had many engines on either of my engine dynos in the lab then applied them directly into a vehicle and tested them on my dynojet. The consistent number is 17-22% based on brakes, tires and camber/toe variations...

I test engines both at the flywheel and at the rear wheels when possible, but lots of what we do is shipped far, far away... One is coming in from Russia right now!




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