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Old 03-27-2009 | 12:06 AM
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I have a 1999 C2 and the CEL is on (non-blinking) with no change in performance. The dealer states I need Bank 1 cam adjuster, 2 oxygen sensors and seals for approx. $3000. I told them I'd let them know.
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Old 03-27-2009 | 12:24 AM
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Welcome!
Firstly either buy yourself a code reader or go to an auto parts store and have them read the code for you. Do a search here for the code and you'll have your answer.
Old 03-27-2009 | 01:45 AM
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hold on there, get a second opinion from another shop.

Now that is said... welcome to RL. We know you are at a stressful time in the ownership of your car. This is a helpful place to come. We request when you get time to post a little bit about yourself and your car along with a couple shots of the car. We understand that is not high priority today having had the $3k quote dropped in your lap, but seriously, get a second opinion. Also let us know your mechanical abillities and available time/space/tools to maybe do some of the things yourself.

Best of luck....

One last word... post results and follow up with us, it will help you down the road when and if something else comes along
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Old 03-27-2009 | 02:46 AM
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yep 2nd opinion and try an independent instead of a Porsche Stealer.....
Old 03-27-2009 | 03:12 AM
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+3 on getting the second opinion. Also tell they that you want to know what codes they are getting. I would have your local autoparts store read the codes so you know tham BEFORE you get the second opinion.

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Old 03-27-2009 | 10:18 AM
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Again agreed on the 2nd opinion. Your location also would help as there are many of us across the country, one of us surely can direct you to a good indy shop.

Keep us updated and welcome to RL.
Old 03-27-2009 | 10:46 AM
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I would spend $50 on buying a ODB II reader instead of going to Autozone. The amount of times you can read the fault codes and then clear codes yourself is worth the money. Pcars have very sensitive sensors.
Old 03-27-2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by chsu74
I would spend $50 on buying a ODB II reader instead of going to Autozone. The amount of times you can read the fault codes and then clear codes yourself is worth the money. Pcars have very sensitive sensors.
Absolutely...buy a code reader then share the code with us on the forum. Do that before you spend 3k. Often a CEL can be erased and won't appear again.GL.
Old 03-27-2009 | 12:53 PM
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mileage? cel (non-blinking) are emissions related... ^^^ what these guys said!
Old 03-27-2009 | 03:02 PM
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Thanks for the info. 56,000 miles
Old 03-27-2009 | 04:14 PM
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If they say you need a cam adjuster, then there must be a leak. This probably has nothing to do with the check engine light. I think the o2 sensors and seals are fairly inexpensive to do.
Old 03-27-2009 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
If they say you need a cam adjuster, then there must be a leak. This probably has nothing to do with the check engine light. I think the o2 sensors and seals are fairly inexpensive to do.
A failed cam adjuster will not cause a leak but it will cause a CEL. The seals mentioned in the OP are the seals required when the cam cover is removed to replace the cam adjuster.
Old 03-27-2009 | 07:21 PM
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My cam cover seal did leak a little bit and I did not get a CEL so I guess my cam adjuster was OK then... After replacing seal, everything is good, no more leak. Cheers,
Old 03-27-2009 | 07:26 PM
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I've seen a failed cam adjuster (solenoid or the tensioner assembly can fail) cause blinking check engine light. Anyway, it is unlikely that you need two oxygen sensors at this time also. If they're quoting you for the chain tensioner/adjuster assembly, along with the solenoid (that part alone lists for around $1000), along with two oxygen sensors, I'd say the quote is only a bit high. However, often you can get away with just the solenoid, in which case the parts/labor should be well under $2k.

I would also get a second opinion. If you were local I'd be glad to help you out, but unfortunately you're not.
Old 03-27-2009 | 07:31 PM
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Welcome to the forum.
You are in the right place, the guys here at the forum are very helpful
and friendly.
Please let us know how it turns out.
John



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