Just heard about the 18 year old girl who got killed in a 911
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The article says it's a "new" 911 which belonged to her Dad. Apparently, she took it out while she was drunk, then clipped a Honda while she was trying to pass it. What a tragedy to her family... May she rest in peace.
What model was this 911 (could have been bought used), and the pictures look pretty bad (not for the faint-hearted), even though it was traveling at only 100 mph.
This got me concerned. How safe are our 911?
What model was this 911 (could have been bought used), and the pictures look pretty bad (not for the faint-hearted), even though it was traveling at only 100 mph.
This got me concerned. How safe are our 911?
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The article says it's a "new" 911 which belonged to her Dad. Apparently, she took it out while she was drunk, then clipped a Honda while she was trying to pass it.
What model was this 911 (could have been bought used), and the pictures look pretty bad (not for the faint-hearted), even though it was traveling at only 100 mph.
This got me concerned. How safe are our 911?
What model was this 911 (could have been bought used), and the pictures look pretty bad (not for the faint-hearted), even though it was traveling at only 100 mph.
This got me concerned. How safe are our 911?
There were many versions of the story that were told... one that she was drunk, one that she stole the car after arguing with her father.... none were actually verified. The only thing that was known to be true was that she was speeding and lost control. It was pretty sad.
If I remember correctly she was driving a C2 cab.
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Yup. I kept the story and the photos to use as a lesson for my kid when he's old enough.... I followed the news reports for a while to try and find out which version of the story was actually true, but never really got the final story - the family were so pissed off about the photos being posted that the story pretty much got shut down.
I'll never forget her name, or the before and after photos.
I'll never forget her name, or the before and after photos.
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This one happened last Halloween. Her name was Nicole Catsuras. I have the photos and story if you're interested. It was an insane crash.
There were many versions of the story that were told... one that she was drunk, one that she stole the car after arguing with her father.... none were actually verified. The only thing that was known to be true was that she was speeding and lost control. It was pretty sad.
If I remember correctly she was driving a C2
There were many versions of the story that were told... one that she was drunk, one that she stole the car after arguing with her father.... none were actually verified. The only thing that was known to be true was that she was speeding and lost control. It was pretty sad.
If I remember correctly she was driving a C2
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Yup. I kept the story and the photos to use as a lesson for my kid when he's old enough.... I followed the news reports for a while to try and find out which version of the story was actually true, but never really got the final story - the family were so pissed off about the photos being posted that the story pretty much got shut down.
I'll never forget her name, or the before and after photos.
I'll never forget her name, or the before and after photos.
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The capabilities of her car and her speed outpaced her driving abilities and she paid for it.
Part of me called her a dumb *** and I was glad that she only killed herself, but the other part of me saw the tragedy of an 18 year old going in such a horrific manner and realizing that it could easily happen to any of us should be not teach our kids responsible driving.
... not something you want to see everyday. I can still vividly recall the photos. I don't need to look at them, they're etched into my memory.
Edit: Holy cow. I just did a quick Google search - it was actually Halloween 2006 when it happened... boy time flies by quickly.
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Yeah, let's not attach any more photos in here.
My concern at this point is how this affected Porsche. Has Porsche issued any statement after this? Is our 911 safe? How did 911 perform in the crash test, etc.?
My concern at this point is how this affected Porsche. Has Porsche issued any statement after this? Is our 911 safe? How did 911 perform in the crash test, etc.?
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Unfortunately, a lot of young people have died tragically in Porsches, BMWs, hot Mustangs, etc.
Think about the boys who drove an M5 off the end of a runway in Florida last year.
(Wellard, the story you reference actually happened Halloween 2006, police photo's were leaked, the family tried to sue the CHP, etc. Happened local here in OC, and my wife was acquainted with the parents).
This girl Nicole never had a chance, not in any car at such speed.
The problem is 18 yo's and Porsches just don't mix well.
Here was the original story, the official CHP photos did leak all over the Internet, unfortunately for the family.
http://www.ocregister.com/news/honda...ross-catsouras
Think about the boys who drove an M5 off the end of a runway in Florida last year.
(Wellard, the story you reference actually happened Halloween 2006, police photo's were leaked, the family tried to sue the CHP, etc. Happened local here in OC, and my wife was acquainted with the parents).
This girl Nicole never had a chance, not in any car at such speed.
The problem is 18 yo's and Porsches just don't mix well.
Here was the original story, the official CHP photos did leak all over the Internet, unfortunately for the family.
http://www.ocregister.com/news/honda...ross-catsouras
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Think of it this way. Assuming that the car had survived intact with no damage and that she had been protected. The g-forces of hitting a concrete toll booth head on at over 100 mph would have killed her.
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If you are familiar with the family, did anyone ever get to the bottom of the story as to why she was in possession of the car and why she was driving like she was? Did she have the reported argument with her father?
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Here's a follow-up article from this year that I'd not seen before:
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister...le_1965415.php
The article says that she had cocaine metabolites in her system, took the car without permission and that when she did both her parents called 911 stating that she had been drinking. Both later denied the latter statements.
A quote from the story, "Nikki took the Porsche because her parents were going to admit her to a hospital again after she tested positive for cocaine the night before she died, Lesli Catsouras said. Her parents had taken away the keys to her car, but she found the keys to the Porsche dangling in the house."
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister...le_1965415.php
The article says that she had cocaine metabolites in her system, took the car without permission and that when she did both her parents called 911 stating that she had been drinking. Both later denied the latter statements.
A quote from the story, "Nikki took the Porsche because her parents were going to admit her to a hospital again after she tested positive for cocaine the night before she died, Lesli Catsouras said. Her parents had taken away the keys to her car, but she found the keys to the Porsche dangling in the house."
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Yeah, I already corrected my comment above after I refreshed my memory.
If you are familiar with the family, did anyone ever get to the bottom of the story as to why she was in possession of the car and why she was driving like she was? Did she have the reported argument with her father?
If you are familiar with the family, did anyone ever get to the bottom of the story as to why she was in possession of the car and why she was driving like she was? Did she have the reported argument with her father?
Just one of those local stories that came a bit too close to home.
That was what my wife had heard, there was some silly argument, daughter took the keys.....
As we know, a 911 is a special car that handles differently than most cars.
Regarding safety of the 911, I guess we could speculate a different car (front-engine) might have reacted differently upon impacting that Honda.
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Right, sorry, me too.
Just one of those local stories that came a bit too close to home.
That was what my wife had heard, there was some silly argument, daughter took the keys.....
As we know, a 911 is a special car that handles differently than most cars.
Regarding safety of the 911, I guess we could speculate a different car (front-engine) might have reacted differently upon impacting that Honda.
Just one of those local stories that came a bit too close to home.
That was what my wife had heard, there was some silly argument, daughter took the keys.....
As we know, a 911 is a special car that handles differently than most cars.
Regarding safety of the 911, I guess we could speculate a different car (front-engine) might have reacted differently upon impacting that Honda.
It was nice to revisit the story and see the loose ends tied up... I don't think I'd searched for it since last year. I was sad to see that some of the reported stories were true.