997 stock shifter review
#1
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
997 stock shifter review
Hi Guys,
I just replaced my Porsche SSK with the stock 997 shifter(P/N 997-424-010-00) and I LOVE it!
Much less effort than the SSK. Shifting requires a lot less focus/consciousness now. If you ever feel your SSK requires too much effort and don't like the vaguenes of the stock shifter, this IS the solution.
The throw is between SSK and stock. No slop whatsoever and it's butter smooth. Much more prescise than stock and overall shift is faster (than SSK and stock) and feels less brutal to the gearbox. It shifts smoothly even when engine is cold. The black plastic assembly is the same as the stock (same part number stamped on it) but the improvement is in the shifter itself. See the following for a better pic.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-gt3-forum/330742-997-gt3-shifter.html
One big difference in feel compared to SSK is at the end of each shift travel, the SSK will feel like you hit a plastic wall that you can't really push the shifter any further while the 997 shifter there's some sponginess at the end of each gear travel, which I like since it's easier on the hand and on the gearbox.
I just replaced my Porsche SSK with the stock 997 shifter(P/N 997-424-010-00) and I LOVE it!
Much less effort than the SSK. Shifting requires a lot less focus/consciousness now. If you ever feel your SSK requires too much effort and don't like the vaguenes of the stock shifter, this IS the solution.
The throw is between SSK and stock. No slop whatsoever and it's butter smooth. Much more prescise than stock and overall shift is faster (than SSK and stock) and feels less brutal to the gearbox. It shifts smoothly even when engine is cold. The black plastic assembly is the same as the stock (same part number stamped on it) but the improvement is in the shifter itself. See the following for a better pic.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-gt3-forum/330742-997-gt3-shifter.html
One big difference in feel compared to SSK is at the end of each shift travel, the SSK will feel like you hit a plastic wall that you can't really push the shifter any further while the 997 shifter there's some sponginess at the end of each gear travel, which I like since it's easier on the hand and on the gearbox.
#2
Three Wheelin'
I'm stunned. I find my friend's 997 just as sloppy as ever. Maybe it's because I am so completely enamoured and used to the SSK. Moreover, the "feel like you hit a plastic wall" sensation if my favorite part of the SSK. Dell once remarked that it's just like a "bolt-action rifle". I agree. I think it's awesome.
#3
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
I'm stunned. I find my friend's 997 just as sloppy as ever. Maybe it's because I am so completely enamoured and used to the SSK. Moreover, the "feel like you hit a plastic wall" sensation if my favorite part of the SSK. Dell once remarked that it's just like a "bolt-action rifle". I agree. I think it's awesome.
#4
Pro
>> it is actually the internal parts of the gearbox banging together abruptly
A SSK changes the throw of the shifter arm. It does not change the operation of the cables and gearbox linkages.
A SSK changes the throw of the shifter arm. It does not change the operation of the cables and gearbox linkages.
#5
#6
Burning Brakes
You "feel" the "plastic wall" because of the angle of the shifter rod relative to the cable. On a SSK the angle is much closer to 90 degrees, so it feels like a wall. On mine the "wall" feel is only apparant in 2nd & 4th. On the oem ones, the angle is closer to 120 or 60, so the shock is transmitted at a vector angle through the rod, that you don't feel. That's all. If you shift "gently" with a SSK, it feels exactly the same, except for the effort. If you think about it, since the OEM shift has a far greater mechanical advantage (easier to shift), it is more likely to damage (if at all possible) the transmission shift linkage with the OEM than with a SSK becuase it takes SO much more effort to get the same force with the SSK!!.
#7
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
However, what limits the end of the shift travel is the gearbox and not the shifter itself (assuming the shifter is aligned correcly). So the "wall" feel is actually the gearbox stopping the shifter from moving any further. Since the SSK has metal everything including the bushings, there's no buffer to absorb this impact and hence the prominant "wall" feel. With OEM shifter, the bushings are plastic and that help absorbing the impact plus the angle of the shifter is less vertical. Therefore, the "wall" feel is less with the OEM shifter.
My point was since the SSK requires more effort due to reduced leverage, it's a lot easier for the user to "overshoot" (unintentianally) and put more effort than needed and hence rushing and forcing the synchros. Of course if you focus enough, you can be easy on the SSK to try to limit the overshoot but then it won't be fast anymore.
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#8
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
You "feel" the "plastic wall" because of the angle of the shifter rod relative to the cable. On a SSK the angle is much closer to 90 degrees, so it feels like a wall. On mine the "wall" feel is only apparant in 2nd & 4th. On the oem ones, the angle is closer to 120 or 60, so the shock is transmitted at a vector angle through the rod, that you don't feel. That's all. If you shift "gently" with a SSK, it feels exactly the same, except for the effort.
If you think about it, since the OEM shift has a far greater mechanical advantage (easier to shift), it is more likely to damage (if at all possible) the transmission shift linkage with the OEM than with a SSK becuase it takes SO much more effort to get the same force with the SSK!!.
If you think about it, since the OEM shift has a far greater mechanical advantage (easier to shift), it is more likely to damage (if at all possible) the transmission shift linkage with the OEM than with a SSK becuase it takes SO much more effort to get the same force with the SSK!!.
I agree if you can shift the SSK "gently", then it's the same. But I found it not easy to shift gently with the SSK due to the increased force and (greatly) reduced distance of travel at the same time.
#11
Shift Alignment Tool 9619
Hi Guys,
I just replaced my Porsche SSK with the stock 997 shifter(P/N 997-424-010-00) and I LOVE it!
Much less effort than the SSK. Shifting requires a lot less focus/consciousness now. If you ever feel your SSK requires too much effort and don't like the vaguenes of the stock shifter, this IS the solution.
The throw is between SSK and stock. No slop whatsoever and it's butter smooth. Much more prescise than stock and overall shift is faster (than SSK and stock) and feels less brutal to the gearbox. It shifts smoothly even when engine is cold. The black plastic assembly is the same as the stock (same part number stamped on it) but the improvement is in the shifter itself. See the following for a better pic.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330742
One big difference in feel compared to SSK is at the end of each shift travel, the SSK will feel like you hit a plastic wall that you can't really push the shifter any further while the 997 shifter there's some sponginess at the end of each gear travel, which I like since it's easier on the hand and on the gearbox.
I just replaced my Porsche SSK with the stock 997 shifter(P/N 997-424-010-00) and I LOVE it!
Much less effort than the SSK. Shifting requires a lot less focus/consciousness now. If you ever feel your SSK requires too much effort and don't like the vaguenes of the stock shifter, this IS the solution.
The throw is between SSK and stock. No slop whatsoever and it's butter smooth. Much more prescise than stock and overall shift is faster (than SSK and stock) and feels less brutal to the gearbox. It shifts smoothly even when engine is cold. The black plastic assembly is the same as the stock (same part number stamped on it) but the improvement is in the shifter itself. See the following for a better pic.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330742
One big difference in feel compared to SSK is at the end of each shift travel, the SSK will feel like you hit a plastic wall that you can't really push the shifter any further while the 997 shifter there's some sponginess at the end of each gear travel, which I like since it's easier on the hand and on the gearbox.
Does the stock 997 shifter(P/N 997-424-010-00) come with the green Shift Alignment Tool in the picture (p/n 9619)?
#13
Rennlist Member
I do like the 997 upgrade, though I have not felt the 996 SSK. I did have a SSK in my honda and I think I know what you are talking about with the tightness and the vagueness. The 997 stock shifter shortens the throws while still retaining the satisfying resolution of actually being in gear.
#15
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Yes for me and a lot of folks will also agree. Best is to try it out first if you can as these are like mattresses, some ppl like it soft, some like it hard....very subjective.