Malakas

What do you mean? I thought you need to give a millisecond or so between shifts to allow the syncros to "catch up"... or something like that (that sounds more technical).

Tippy

If you ever want to learn how to treat a manual trans, drive a Muncie 4spd for about 10 years like I did and you will truly understand how a manual shifts....

You could hear the syncros whine if you were forcing them to the next gear. I also noticed on Borg-Warner T-5's, the same noise was noticeable.

The feedback from the notchiness and whine would let you know how to approach the next gear.

Finding the sweet spot (where the shifters falls into the next gear easily) will help ensure the syncros are never worked excessively IMO

Tippy

I think this technique was told to people to make sure they would not ram the next gear.

If you pause in the neutral position, the syncros are doing nothing. Once you start to engage the next gear, the slider hub kind of wedges the syncro. The syncro has the same teeth that the gear has along with a tapered edge to guide the hub to engage the gear.

I think '99 means if you pause, you are doing nothing productive to get to the next gear, I guess?

1999Porsche911

Drive a car with NO syncos and you'll quickly learn the proper way to shift. Or.....you'll end up stranded on the side of the road.

1999Porsche911

I always preferred the T-10 myself, but that is dating me.

Malakas

I used to have a CDL and drove some trucks you had to double clutch etc....
But I still shifted, not with a pause per se between gears, but certainly with a 2 step action instead of a straight pull from gear to gear.

How are you all defining "ram" or "throw" ?

Tippy

Exactly

Not really, been around a few and I am not even 30.

Chads996

Tippy

Oh gawd, you should really know how to shift manuals, big trucks do not have syncros to best of my knowledge.

I would just say my definition of ramming is forcing or crowding the next gear.

Palting

Hey, pass that along, wilya.

I learned to drive on a WW2 weapons carrier. Talk about long throw, no synchro. To get it into 1st gear, you had to be at a dead stop, then lean into that lever with your full weight (I was 12), listen to the groaning gears as they tried to mesh, until you heard and felt a thud as the gears drove home. Other gears you can double clutch to kinda sync the gears, but first gear was always a noisy manuever. That's in high gear 2WD. Try low gear 4 wheel drive for more fun .

How about that for dating oneself?

Malakas

Ok, ok - after driving a little bit and actually paying attention to shifting... I think I may have over-emphasized the pause between shifts... I suppose it is a straight pull back. And truth be told, you get used to the longer throw... so maybe I want a reduction not as extreme as the B&M... gt3 or gt3 rs shifter assembly??

Palting

Aren't the B&M SSK's adjustable as to how much reduction?

Doug Donsbach

No.

dresler

Just driving the car while it's warming up gives a good feel what's going on. Mine is recalcitrant as hell until its warm.