10.5" inchers speak up
10-26-2007, 12:21 AM
#31
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Tim - I have thought about this a lot, plus got 3 Engineers opinions. All said it would probably be OK. I didnt get any "absolutely nots".
Steven - you probably have the best idea but this could affect my friends E-bay rating
Maybe advertise for widebody only?
Steven - you probably have the best idea but this could affect my friends E-bay rating
Maybe advertise for widebody only?
10-26-2007, 10:11 AM
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you can fit GT3 wheels on the non-GT3 NB, but the look will be different in that they may stick out or stick in further due to the offset being different because of the suspension of the 2 cars being different.
10-26-2007, 01:39 PM
#33
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Just for the record -- I am pretty confident that although the suspension is different, the actual position of the wheel mounting in relation to the fender is the same between the GT3 and the standard narrow body 996 -- certainly I have run the 10" rears wheels (left over from my C4) on my GT3 (when desperate from some wet weather traction at VIR) and they looked the same as they did when they where mounted on the C4. I may be wrong as I have never actually measured both but I do not think so.
to put GT3 wheels on a non-GT3 car. But I am sure there is someone out there that has and maybe for tracking. I am very interested in this because I will be trackin gmy '99 NB next year and do not want to use my OZ's (19's) but use 18's, so I am in the market to find teh perfect setup for my car, looks are not necessary since I will be using the wheels for tracking purposes only.
10-26-2007, 01:45 PM
#34
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Be honest in your listing but you do not need to mention anything about the problems you ran into down the road, you are selling them because you are replacing them with other wheels that meet your liking now. I doubt the buyer will leave negative feedback because your listing will be truthful about the wheels and the fact that they do fit on a 996 and you will show that with a picture of them on your car, that's all you need. Would I sell these wheels this way, yes, does that make it wrong, no, you are not doing any false advertising IMHO (sorry for long response).
10-26-2007, 01:55 PM
#35
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it's as simple as this tippy - you have wheels that are crap quality and don't fit your car. trash them, take it as a loss, live and let learn, and finally get wheels that fit your car.
vw jettas and honda civics try to do this all day and some succeed some don't... just like porsche guys. unlike the econobox owners, let's hope you have the cash reserves to spend the $5K or so to get a proper wheel/tire combination for your 911.
handle it,
ben
vw jettas and honda civics try to do this all day and some succeed some don't... just like porsche guys. unlike the econobox owners, let's hope you have the cash reserves to spend the $5K or so to get a proper wheel/tire combination for your 911.
handle it,
ben
10-26-2007, 02:27 PM
#36
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I would advertise them like they do from the original ebay seller, I mean did you give them a bad feedback even though they did not fit exactly how you thought they would ?
Be honest in your listing but you do not need to mention anything about the problems you ran into down the road, you are selling them because you are replacing them with other wheels that meet your liking now. I doubt the buyer will leave negative feedback because your listing will be truthful about the wheels and the fact that they do fit on a 996 and you will show that with a picture of them on your car, that's all you need. Would I sell these wheels this way, yes, does that make it wrong, no, you are not doing any false advertising IMHO (sorry for long response).
Be honest in your listing but you do not need to mention anything about the problems you ran into down the road, you are selling them because you are replacing them with other wheels that meet your liking now. I doubt the buyer will leave negative feedback because your listing will be truthful about the wheels and the fact that they do fit on a 996 and you will show that with a picture of them on your car, that's all you need. Would I sell these wheels this way, yes, does that make it wrong, no, you are not doing any false advertising IMHO (sorry for long response).
10-26-2007, 03:01 PM
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I can answer this one. I have a 99 996 C2 but have installed a 2004 GT3 take off suspension.... everything is the same. You can run the GT3 wheels on your C2 and vice versa. They fit perfectly because the cars are identical in relation to wheel locations.
Hope this helps. -Paul
Hope this helps. -Paul
I would be happy to know if there is a difference or not...I am going from what I was told by GT3 owners, and so I have no technical resources to show one way or another. You may actually be correct also, and this might actually come down to it being a to put GT3 wheels on a non-GT3 car. But I am sure there is someone out there that has and maybe for tracking. I am very interested in this because I will be trackin gmy '99 NB next year and do not want to use my OZ's (19's) but use 18's, so I am in the market to find teh perfect setup for my car, looks are not necessary since I will be using the wheels for tracking purposes only.
to put GT3 wheels on a non-GT3 car. But I am sure there is someone out there that has and maybe for tracking. I am very interested in this because I will be trackin gmy '99 NB next year and do not want to use my OZ's (19's) but use 18's, so I am in the market to find teh perfect setup for my car, looks are not necessary since I will be using the wheels for tracking purposes only.
10-26-2007, 04:30 PM
#38
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I can answer this one. I have a 99 996 C2 but have installed a 2004 GT3 take off suspension.... everything is the same. You can run the GT3 wheels on your C2 and vice versa. They fit perfectly because the cars are identical in relation to wheel locations.
Hope this helps. -Paul
Hope this helps. -Paul
hey how about i start out with $1 to the Get Tippy Cool Wheels fund right here?
10-26-2007, 05:16 PM
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just to help you out more..
I have a custom set of Fikse's 17x8.5 ET 50 and 17x11 ET60 and they fit purrfect. These are for track rubber and for my purposes I wanted 17s.
For the rear on a narrow body 996 the viable offsets are as follows.
18x10 ET 65 up to ET48 (that is per the factory recommendation of the stock wheel with a 17mm spacer; so 65mm-17mm=48mm
with an 11 incher
18x11 ET 63 (that is the stock GT3 wheel) up to an ET 60 (which I am running).
This is why I asked about offsets right up front.
So if you buy a wheel that fits within the ranges above you won't have any issue except if you are at the limit with the 18x11 ET60 where a 315/30 fits but a 315/35 rubs.
The other thing to remember is that whenever you are right at the limit of a tire/wheel fitting the only thing that can help it is more aggressive negative camber since that tilts the top of the wheel in and helps it clear the fender lip.
The last disclamer is that the stock front lower spring perch takes up a lot of space and can cause issues unless you are running a coilover setup which uses much smaller 2.5 ID springs unlike the giant stock springs.
Hope this makes sense.
I have a custom set of Fikse's 17x8.5 ET 50 and 17x11 ET60 and they fit purrfect. These are for track rubber and for my purposes I wanted 17s.
For the rear on a narrow body 996 the viable offsets are as follows.
18x10 ET 65 up to ET48 (that is per the factory recommendation of the stock wheel with a 17mm spacer; so 65mm-17mm=48mm
with an 11 incher
18x11 ET 63 (that is the stock GT3 wheel) up to an ET 60 (which I am running).
This is why I asked about offsets right up front.
So if you buy a wheel that fits within the ranges above you won't have any issue except if you are at the limit with the 18x11 ET60 where a 315/30 fits but a 315/35 rubs. The other thing to remember is that whenever you are right at the limit of a tire/wheel fitting the only thing that can help it is more aggressive negative camber since that tilts the top of the wheel in and helps it clear the fender lip.
The last disclamer is that the stock front lower spring perch takes up a lot of space and can cause issues unless you are running a coilover setup which uses much smaller 2.5 ID springs unlike the giant stock springs.
Hope this makes sense.
10-26-2007, 05:20 PM
#40
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Believe or not, I have a good grasp on the whole offset but the company I bought them from said they would fit a NB. I should of studied the pics a little more.
10-26-2007, 05:33 PM
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Ok, I am really confused... are these the wheels on ebay that you "don't know the offset for"?
19x10.5 ET52
Because if they are then all you need is to mount a 275/30/19 as they advertise in the company's listings and you will be fine. Now if they sent you the same wheel but in an ET45 they screwed up because that is the Boxster fitment and will never work.
19x10.5 ET52
Because if they are then all you need is to mount a 275/30/19 as they advertise in the company's listings and you will be fine. Now if they sent you the same wheel but in an ET45 they screwed up because that is the Boxster fitment and will never work.
Last edited by Paul 996; 10-26-2007 at 05:53 PM.
10-26-2007, 08:10 PM
#42
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Ok, I am really confused... are these the wheels on ebay that you "don't know the offset for"?
19x10.5 ET52
Because if they are then all you need is to mount a 275/30/19 as they advertise in the company's listings and you will be fine. Now if they sent you the same wheel but in an ET45 they screwed up because that is the Boxster fitment and will never work.
19x10.5 ET52
Because if they are then all you need is to mount a 275/30/19 as they advertise in the company's listings and you will be fine. Now if they sent you the same wheel but in an ET45 they screwed up because that is the Boxster fitment and will never work.
Yes, the company I bought them from recommended 275's but almost every tire manufacturer recommends a 295 for a 10.5". 275's are usually for 9.5"s. That was the whole point of my OP, does a 275 or 285 "work" fine on a 10.5" rim? I needed experiences of dos and donts.
10-26-2007, 08:23 PM
#43
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Just a couple more things and then I am done with this thread.
Forgive me if this is too blunt but it needs to be black and white:
1. You bought a set of wheels that are NOT made for your car and are the INCORRECT offset. A 10.5" wheel with a et52 offset is so wrong it is not even funny. That is wide body offset. Take your factory 10" wheel with an offset of 65 and it would be like adding a 19mm spacer! Guys have tried to add the OEM 17mm spacers and it just doesn't look right nor fit properly. Heck, what you are trying to do (another example) is take a GT3 wheel and ADD a 5mm spacer! The GT3 wheels are already flush to the edge and work b/c of the aggressive setup.
2. Since you are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, you're going to keep failing. What you are doing is analogous to golfer "playing his slice"! This is nothing more than an exercise in futility.
3. THe proper tire you should be running on that width rim is the 285/295 tires but you are going to have a heck of a time finding the correct profile. That forces you to the 315 width. Ain't gonna happen. Again, trying to fit a 30 series tire when you need a 25 with a 19" wheel is the whole square peg/round hole ignorance.
4. QUIT TRUSTING EBAY SELLERS AND COME TO YOUR RENNLIST BROTHERS FIRST!!!!!!!
As much as I hate to agree with Ben, sell the damn wheels and get the proper sizes. Chalk this up to a lesson learned and unload those suckers if you can.
Forgive me if this is too blunt but it needs to be black and white:
1. You bought a set of wheels that are NOT made for your car and are the INCORRECT offset. A 10.5" wheel with a et52 offset is so wrong it is not even funny. That is wide body offset. Take your factory 10" wheel with an offset of 65 and it would be like adding a 19mm spacer! Guys have tried to add the OEM 17mm spacers and it just doesn't look right nor fit properly. Heck, what you are trying to do (another example) is take a GT3 wheel and ADD a 5mm spacer! The GT3 wheels are already flush to the edge and work b/c of the aggressive setup.
2. Since you are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, you're going to keep failing. What you are doing is analogous to golfer "playing his slice"! This is nothing more than an exercise in futility.
3. THe proper tire you should be running on that width rim is the 285/295 tires but you are going to have a heck of a time finding the correct profile. That forces you to the 315 width. Ain't gonna happen. Again, trying to fit a 30 series tire when you need a 25 with a 19" wheel is the whole square peg/round hole ignorance.
4. QUIT TRUSTING EBAY SELLERS AND COME TO YOUR RENNLIST BROTHERS FIRST!!!!!!!
As much as I hate to agree with Ben, sell the damn wheels and get the proper sizes. Chalk this up to a lesson learned and unload those suckers if you can.
10-26-2007, 08:31 PM
#44
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Ok, I am really confused... are these the wheels on ebay that you "don't know the offset for"?
19x10.5 ET52
Because if they are then all you need is to mount a 275/30/19 as they advertise in the company's listings and you will be fine. Now if they sent you the same wheel but in an ET45 they screwed up because that is the Boxster fitment and will never work.
19x10.5 ET52
Because if they are then all you need is to mount a 275/30/19 as they advertise in the company's listings and you will be fine. Now if they sent you the same wheel but in an ET45 they screwed up because that is the Boxster fitment and will never work.
10-26-2007, 09:06 PM
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Just a couple more things and then I am done with this thread.
Forgive me if this is too blunt but it needs to be black and white:
1. You bought a set of wheels that are NOT made for your car and are the INCORRECT offset. A 10.5" wheel with a et52 offset is so wrong it is not even funny. That is wide body offset. Take your factory 10" wheel with an offset of 65 and it would be like adding a 19mm spacer! Guys have tried to add the OEM 17mm spacers and it just doesn't look right nor fit properly. Heck, what you are trying to do (another example) is take a GT3 wheel and ADD a 5mm spacer! The GT3 wheels are already flush to the edge and work b/c of the aggressive setup.
2. Since you are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, you're going to keep failing. What you are doing is analogous to golfer "playing his slice"! This is nothing more than an exercise in futility.
3. THe proper tire you should be running on that width rim is the 285/295 tires but you are going to have a heck of a time finding the correct profile. That forces you to the 315 width. Ain't gonna happen. Again, trying to fit a 30 series tire when you need a 25 with a 19" wheel is the whole square peg/round hole ignorance.
4. QUIT TRUSTING EBAY SELLERS AND COME TO YOUR RENNLIST BROTHERS FIRST!!!!!!!
As much as I hate to agree with Ben, sell the damn wheels and get the proper sizes. Chalk this up to a lesson learned and unload those suckers if you can.
Forgive me if this is too blunt but it needs to be black and white:
1. You bought a set of wheels that are NOT made for your car and are the INCORRECT offset. A 10.5" wheel with a et52 offset is so wrong it is not even funny. That is wide body offset. Take your factory 10" wheel with an offset of 65 and it would be like adding a 19mm spacer! Guys have tried to add the OEM 17mm spacers and it just doesn't look right nor fit properly. Heck, what you are trying to do (another example) is take a GT3 wheel and ADD a 5mm spacer! The GT3 wheels are already flush to the edge and work b/c of the aggressive setup.
2. Since you are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, you're going to keep failing. What you are doing is analogous to golfer "playing his slice"! This is nothing more than an exercise in futility.
3. THe proper tire you should be running on that width rim is the 285/295 tires but you are going to have a heck of a time finding the correct profile. That forces you to the 315 width. Ain't gonna happen. Again, trying to fit a 30 series tire when you need a 25 with a 19" wheel is the whole square peg/round hole ignorance.
4. QUIT TRUSTING EBAY SELLERS AND COME TO YOUR RENNLIST BROTHERS FIRST!!!!!!!
As much as I hate to agree with Ben, sell the damn wheels and get the proper sizes. Chalk this up to a lesson learned and unload those suckers if you can.
