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Old 04-26-2007, 01:39 AM
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not if you're smart and buy used. heavier? the 997s is still faster. newer. updated.

interior options? the interior on that looks ... avg.

again, not special.
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....... and not have the commemorative luggage pieces.
Old 04-26-2007, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by triode
it's just not special enough to justify the price. 997Ss are superior in every way so why would anyone pick this one over it for $65K? for the looks.... not different enough. performance? still getting handed by the 997S. interior? looks avg.
It's pretty special indeed with 345 HP and limited slip, plus every interior option as standard. And a 997S optioned like that is heavier, has only 10 more HP, and will run around $90K![/QUOTE]
I did a quick search on AutoTrader and here is what I found:

2005 997S
$65,000 - $69,999 18 cars
$70,000 - $74,999 12 cars
$75,000 - $79,999 5 cars

Non-S 997 cars were starting $57,400.

If I were looking to spend $65k - $70k, it would be for a 2005 997S, not a 2004 40th Anniv.
Old 04-26-2007, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gota911
If I were looking to spend $65k - $70k, it would be for a 2005 997S, not a 2004 40th Anniv.
One word for this money GT3 If that's a word
Old 04-26-2007, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by triode
Disagree with LVDEell. With low miles, navi and the other extras, low $60s is eminently do-able. Comparably equipped C4S cars (which are slower, to boot) still trade above $65K at times, and even garden variety C2 cars w/o X51 and all the other 40th equipment sell in the $50s, esp. w/only 12K miles.
I have to respectfully disagree as well. I've recently been in the market for a 996 and really clean well-optioned 2002 C2's with 20K miles or less can be bought for $45-48K.

I love the anniversary model too, but there's no way I'd pay more than $55K for one unless I was obsessed with having that particular car/model. Any more than this and you're into TT territory, which to me is no comparison.
Old 04-26-2007, 11:22 AM
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I will also agree with the over priced crowd...$65K...no way.

If there were only 100 produced, it would be different. 1963 is a lot of cars. Doesn't really put it in a collector car category. So, what you have is a very nice optioned 02 with low miles and some special badges. Again, not worth much of a premium in my opinion.
Old 04-26-2007, 11:25 AM
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So, what you have is a very nice optioned 02 with low miles and some special badges. Again, not worth much of a premium in my opinion.
Oh yeah, and the commemorative luggage pieces I'm with you LiveNupe...
Old 04-26-2007, 11:33 AM
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I'm glad someone acknowledged my point. Those bags are worth a good $4k a piece. And the wallet? That's got to be worth another $2k.
Old 04-26-2007, 11:34 AM
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Any business owners need my help with valuations??
Old 04-26-2007, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by M Fig
I will also agree with the over priced crowd...$65K...no way.

If there were only 100 produced, it would be different. 1963 is a lot of cars. Doesn't really put it in a collector car category. So, what you have is a very nice optioned 04 with low miles and some special badges. Again, not worth much of a premium in my opinion.
Exactly! There were twice as many of these produced as the GT3 which destorys this car in every way possible. Also released as an 04 model (with some leftover sold as 05's). And to us in the GT3 crowd <1000 units produced is NOT rare. To try and sell this "40th" for a few thousand less than a GT3 is a pipe dream.

As I said before, while this is a great car, it came as a "package deal" and you either liked it and wanted or you didn't. They made TOO MANY and they sat on lots into the 2005 model year and they were giving them away (new) in the low 70's. True, some people paid the 89K price tag assuming it would be a collectors car but it was a base 996 with leftover powerkits added as "Standard" and some other "special" options. For that coin, people were optioning a 996 EXACTLY as they wanted for less. Consequently that is what ultimately killed the 40th. Look at the Club Coupe. Less than 100 avail and they don't command the healthy premium that you would expect for a small produced number.

If they wanted to make this a truly special collectors car they would have produced 40 of them and made them something indicative of the past 40 years and what made those years special for each of the 40 released.
Old 04-26-2007, 12:20 PM
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They've had one on the lot with 12k miles in Scottsdale for months. They're asking price? 69k! That is until recently, when they RAISED the price to 72,900! Wow, and I bet money no luggage! Still, I think it's a really really nice car and came very close to buying one but the price wanted was a little more than I had budgeted out for a used 996. Also, 1963 is a number of cars that will be a collectors item, but it will take at least 30years to get there. My favorite is when ford makes abouit 10,000 gt 500's and tells everyone they are getting limited production. lol
Old 04-26-2007, 01:31 PM
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It's a great car but $65k is too high. Your sale price needs to start with a 5 IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Steven C.
One word for this money GT3 If that's a word
Agreed! However, since we were discussing "regular" Carerras (i.e. not the GT3 or Turbo), I stayed at that level for comparison sake.
Old 04-26-2007, 02:16 PM
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Great car but stay realistic. $65K is unrealistic. I'm sure everyone love his 996 here on the board and thinks that it's better than the market average but open your eyes: when you were a buyer, did you believe all this salesman blabla: great options all worth thousands of $, unique car, pampered, never driven in the rain, ... nice but it's not much worth. We're talking about a Porsche 996 - a mass production car, so the market dictates the price, nothing else.
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Exactly! There were twice as many of these produced as the GT3 which destorys this car in every way possible.
No it doesn't.

The GT3 and the 40th are not even aimed at the same market.

If you want a track oriented car that you can use on the street AND you do not need back seats, then the GT3 is the car for you.

If you want a street oriented car that you can use on the track, OR if you need back seats, then the 40th is an outstanding choice.

They are really aimed at two entirely different market segments.

This price may be too high, but comparing the price to a GT3 doesn't help make that argument in my opinion since they are not even really competing for the same potential buyers.

A much better comparison is with other 996 coupes. Specifically, is the X51 package plus a turbo nose and LSD worth 30K? That is the question . . .


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