bnewport

Just got this from Motormeister, 15k to rebuild a 3.4L engine with these parts and it ends up as a 4.0L.

Hi Billy,
Here is a sample of what we can do which is FASTER and will LAST longer then stock!

Custom 4.0 996 Motor Rebuild

Parts:

6-New 4.0 Forged Performance Pistons

· Forged

6-Performance 4.0 Steel Cylinders

· New steel lined

6-Performance 4.0 Light Weight Pistons pins

· Micropolished

12-Performance Safety Piston pin clips

· Special locks

Custom 4.0 Sized Head gasket

· Numbers 1-3

Custom 4.0 Sized Head gasket

· Numbers 4-6

Custom 4.0 intake gaskets

· Hand matched to intake

4.0 Carrillo Racing Connecting

· Carrillo Rods and Bolts

Kevlar Performance Clutch Disc

· Longer lasting

· Stronger material

14-Main bearings #996-101-205-10

12-Rod bearings #996-103-121-52

2-Timing chains #996-105-170-53

1-Timing chain #996-105-171-55

2-Timing chains #996-105-177-52

2-Timing chain guides #996-105-175-52

2-Timing chain guides #996-105-173-53

24-Valve guides #996-104-115-61

24-Valve stem seals #996-105-115-52

6-Small oil tube seals #999-707-343-40

6-Large oil tube seals #999-707-215-40

6-Plastic camshaft plug caps #996-104-215-54

1-Main seal #997 Up-grade

1-Front crankshaft seal #997 Up-Grade

6-Chain rail O’rings #999-707-346-40

1-Chain rail repair rail #996-105-195-00

1-Drain plug gasket #900-123-106-30

Oil Separator Gasket #996-101-241-51

Oil Pump Seal #996-107-261-50

Oil Pump Base Gasket #996-107-337-50

Oil Pump O-ring #996-107-103-51

Oil Pump Socket gasket #996-106-316-51

Oil Pump Upper Socket Gasket #996-106-321-50

Oil Pump O-ring #996-107-221-50

2-Intake Gaskets #996-110-103-50

6-Intake O-rings #996-110-247-50

2-Exhaust Port Gaskets #996-111-107-52

Oil filter

Oil filter seal

Break in oil

Custom 996 sealant

6-Spark plugs



Machine Customer’s Engine Parts and Labor:



Clean and Paint external accessories

Valve covers

· Inspected and resurfaced

Cam housings

· Inspected and resurfaced

Cam housing covers

· Inspected and resurfaced

Rockers and shafts

· Polished

Crankshaft

· Magnufluxed

· All journals measured for clearance and tolerances

· Micropolished rod and main journals

Flywheel

· Inspected and resurfaced

Oil cooler

· Inspected and flushed out.

· Pressure tested

· Outer grills cleaned

Complete valve job

· set valve spring height

· bead blast heads

· cut valve seats

· cut valves

· machine valve stem heads

Camshafts

· Inspected and polished

All gears, sprockets and shafts

· Inspected and cleaned

· Debur all sprocket teeth

· Polish all shafts

Customer’s Engine block #996-046Y00993

· Line bore inspected for tolerance

· Spigot holes and face inspected for warpage

· Bearing saddles polished and debured

· Case matting surfaces resurfaced and cleaned

· Piston squirters tested and cleaned

· Oil gallery’s cleaned and inspected

· Head studs hole threads chased and cleaned

New aluminum crush washers 6mm & 8mm

* German Reinz

New zinc plated 6mm & 8mm lock nuts

· German Wurth

Port and Polish head intakes

· Increased air

· Increase gas

Port and Polish head intake manifolds

· Increased air

· Increase gas







Thank you
Roy Marks


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Alan C.

Once you start the process the 'big bore' will be waiting.

Mark Wilson

Motor Meister does NOT have a good reputation.

TD in DC

Yeah, search pelican . . .

Russ Murphy

Has any builder done a good job of resleeving these motors? Any MID style sleeves available? What is the original sleeve material anyway?

TD in DC

I doubt it. With crate motors available for $7-8K, it is rarely worth it to do any serious work yourself.

Gator911

What is the power output supposed to be with this kit?

earlyapex

More and more reputable shops are taking M96 motors apart. Autofarm in England has been featured in "Total 911" magazine for their M96 rebuilds and upgrades.

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/new.php3/silsleeve.html

Motormeister does not enjoy a good reputation.

TT Surgeon

I'd have no quams about building out a m96 motor for racing, I'd do it for way less than 7k too. Just gotta know where to go, ALL parts are available, just gotta know what size/spec you want. The only thing you need is the raw block and raw heads, gasket and seal sets, the rest is all custom( rods, pistons, rings, cams, valve train). Any good racing engine machine shop can handle the job, not tuner shops.
But, I agree for a pure street car, just get a core engine for 7k is the easiest solution. However, if you're experienced, you could easily rebuild it yourself for 1/2.

TD in DC

I call bull. The parts alone would probably cost more than 3.5K That is not counting any machining costs, even if you could do EVERYTHING else yourself. As far as having a racing shop rebuild the motor, I bet you will not find anyone worth having who will do it for less than 10K, and most would probably get closer to 15K or more. Having gone down the rebuild road this past winter, I can assure you that rebuild costs are like DE lap times: People always claim they are less than they really are.

TT Surgeon

BS right back at you TD, I've built many racing engines in the past, the shops I worked with were very well connected and you don't pay the porsche tax. It' s all who you know, and knowing your limitations/experience, it ain't as hard as some of you guys may think.
Good luck

TD in DC

Well, the only way you could possibly be right is if you can reuse basically all your old parts. If you have to replace pistons, cylinders, rods, etc . . . it all adds up very, very quickly. I don't care about starting a pissing match, because I really don't care about "winning" any "argument on the web." I honestly do not understand how you are coming to "rebuilding a 996 motor for less than 3.5K" Please list parts and prices for those parts that you use to arrive at a figure of 3.5K, which is not very much money in my book.

Also, I didn't say it is hard. I said that you are undestimating the costs of rebuilding an engine . . . unless perhaps you are talking about just "refreshing" an engine that wasn't really damaged. The tangent in this thread was started by Russ, who mentioned that he needed new sleeves so I am assuming a fair bit of damage. This is key to my assumption.

Zims is a pretty reasonably priced parts place. They don't list a rebuild kit for the 996, but the kit for the 993 is $999, which is already nearly 1/3 of your budget, and that is not everything you need . . . as you know if you have rebuilt many motors.

http://www.allzim.com/acatalog/Engin...era_84_89.html
Engine Rebuild Kit, 911 Carrera 84-89 Ref: EK911.15
Engine Rebuild Kit Includes:
Complete gasket set
Main bearings (standard)
Rod bearings (standard)
Intermediate shaft bearings
Connecting rod bolts
Connecting rod nuts
Timing chains
Timing chain rails
Piston rings
Valve guides

Fits:
911 84-89

Price: $999.00

Again, if you need new sleeves, you probably need several more parts in addition to these, and I can see that easily going over 3.5K God forbid you need a crankshaft, cylinder, or pistons because that would really add up. In fact, I think the crankshafts alone are roughly 3K, but if you have other sources, I would love to hear about them.


And I called bull not BS.

TT Surgeon

TD, I'm not looking for a pissing match and I have nothing to prove.

ZX9RCAM

I for one would love to know where I could get performance rebuild parts
at a reasonable price......


EDIT: I also suggest looking on Pelican for "Motormeister threads".

Russ Murphy

Thanks. That's the kind of thing I was wondering about. Certainly the factory crate is the way to go for a straightforward replacement, but I was looking ahead to the day when that might be necessary for me. If it came to pass (needing a new motor) 3.8 liters has a nice ring to it.