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Old 07-11-2006, 02:55 PM
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It appears that the die may be cast. I think I have a buyer for the 993. It is a close friend, so if this happens it will stay in the family. Looks like I'll be shopping for a 996 soon.

I can't decide whether it's this

Or this
Old 07-11-2006, 03:07 PM
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Mark,
You have driven a 996 extensively, correct?
If not, make sure you do before you sell that 993 C4S!!
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Originally Posted by Mark Wilson
It appears that the die may be cast. I think I have a buyer for the 993. It is a close friend, so if this happens it will stay in the family. Looks like I'll be shopping for a 996 soon.

I can't decide whether it's this

Or this
As Porsche themselves stated when the 996 was introduced: "With progress and technical advancements, there's just no room for sentiment."

The Germans make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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Kevin,
I've spent some time behind the wheel in one. I liked it. It was very different from my earlier cars, but still felt at home. Cars are very fluid to me. I don't get too attached. I wanted to taste a 993 and have been fortunate enough to have had a very special model. I can cross that off my list. A 996 is the next logical progression for me.
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Originally Posted by riad
As Porsche themselves stated when the 996 was introduced: "With progress and technical advancements, there's just no room for sentiment."

The Germans make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
That's funny - I have some German blood in me......
Old 07-11-2006, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Wilson
Kevin,
I've spent some time behind the wheel in one. I liked it. It was very different from my earlier cars, but still felt at home. Cars are very fluid to me. I don't get too attached. I wanted to taste a 993 and have been fortunate enough to have had a very special model. I can cross that off my list. A 996 is the next logical progression for me.
Good! I'm sure you'll enjoy a 996. I know I do.
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Mark,

I had an 86 911 and remember you from the Pelican board. I also had a 95 993 and loved it. I did the same thing you are contemplating. I sold the 993 and bought a 996 because prices were so low. I am very happy with my decision. I do think the 996 pricing will rebound. If not, they surely won't drop any further. 964's are in the mid to upper 20's now. 996's is a much better car. Now is the time to switch. I suspect the pricing will head north slightly and then react kind of like the 993's where the MY isn't as important as condition and milage to the price (except the '02's and up will have a slight premium). As for comparing the two cars 993/996, I would not trade back if I could. I really love my 996.

Mark
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Hey Mark,
The real unknown in the future 996 prices is how the number of cars made will affect value. Even if they don't trend up, I believe they will stabilize at present levels. People that were looking at 964's and 993's are taking hard looks at the 996 right now just like I am. I'm very excited about getting in to one.
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Coincidentally, no one has mentioned 997 prices. I have been very surprised that they devaluating quite quickly. I am seeing a lot of orignally $90K+ 05' 997 Carrera S models with extremely low miles in the mid $70's. I would have expected them to stay stronger than that after the first year.
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Originally Posted by 02 Carrera
Coincidentally, no one has mentioned 997 prices. I have been very surprised that they devaluating quite quickly. I am seeing a lot of orignally $90K+ 05' 997 Carrera S models with extremely low miles in the mid $70's. I would have expected them to stay stronger than that after the first year.
3 more years and they may be in my range (he said, wringing hands)
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Originally Posted by 02 Carrera
Coincidentally, no one has mentioned 997 prices. I have been very surprised that they devaluating quite quickly. I am seeing a lot of orignally $90K+ 05' 997 Carrera S models with extremely low miles in the mid $70's. I would have expected them to stay stronger than that after the first year.
That depreciation seems correct to me. Usually, driving off the lot will be about 8-10% depreciation from MSRP. Then the first full year of use would bring another 10% depreciation from MSRP. The first year is the big one for depreciation of these cars.
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Originally Posted by Kevin H. in Atl..
That depreciation seems correct to me. Usually, driving off the lot will be about 8-10% depreciation from MSRP. Then the first full year of use would bring another 10% depreciation from MSRP. The first year is the big one for depreciation of these cars.
People freak out when they seem some of those depreciation numbers after the first few years, however, 911's do stabilize and will hold their value in the long run.
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Most 996's have already disappeared off the roads down here in FL. That vehicle went so mainstream that it's being trashed now by teenage third owners. Most of these will be scrapped by insurance companies leaving the remaining few pristine examples (especially with the pre-2002 face) to enjoy a relatively rare status. If you can get your hands on a flawless example I would do so and keep the mileage down. Twenty years from now you may end up with a classic. Don't laugh.
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I saw several in May at South Beach but I was only there for 7 days ..

Originally Posted by bdronsick
Most 996's have already disappeared off the roads down here in FL. That vehicle went so mainstream that it's being trashed now by teenage third owners. Most of these will be scrapped by insurance companies leaving the remaining few pristine examples (especially with the pre-2002 face) to enjoy a relatively rare status. If you can get your hands on a flawless example I would do so and keep the mileage down. Twenty years from now you may end up with a classic. Don't laugh.
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
Most 996's have already disappeared off the roads down here in FL. That vehicle went so mainstream that it's being trashed now by teenage third owners. Most of these will be scrapped by insurance companies leaving the remaining few pristine examples (especially with the pre-2002 face) to enjoy a relatively rare status. If you can get your hands on a flawless example I would do so and keep the mileage down. Twenty years from now you may end up with a classic. Don't laugh.
I think by definition a car over 20 years is considered a classic, so that's certainly a true statement.


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