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Old 06-14-2006, 11:48 PM
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Has anyone seen the new K&N cold air intake? I first saw it in the latest performance catalog and now the new Panorama came out and there is an ad in there from a company for only $247.95 with free shipping.

The product looks good but is it just crap? Anyone seen it in person? The Evo seems to keep the filter to the right side where as the K&N places it more center. Any advantages or disadvantages? This is about half the cost of others. I appreciate anyones thoughts.
Old 06-15-2006, 12:04 AM
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looks like th K&N is "closer" to the cold air duct than the EVO system... I think the K&N filter is also covered by a carbon fiber enclosure to dissipate heat more effectively.... has anybody tried it?
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There is an earlier thread about this
Old 06-15-2006, 10:08 AM
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Who was selling it for that price? Did you happen to catch the name of the company? That's $50 bucks less than Vivid Racing's price.
Old 06-15-2006, 10:39 AM
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Auto Anything is the company advertising the intake at $247.95 with free shipping. I'm sure vivid will match the price though with their policy.

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Old 06-15-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiOn19s
Auto Anything is the company advertising the intake at $247.95 with free shipping. I'm sure vivid will match the price though with their policy.

Andy
I just called auto anything and the only thing they said they offer is the filter. If you have a link to this deal please post it.
Old 06-15-2006, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Duffs4
I just called auto anything and the only thing they said they offer is the filter. If you have a link to this deal please post it.
I could not find it on their website but it was in an ad listed in the June issuie of Panorama. It might not yet be available.
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They have incorrect pricing and have been notified by K&N. Also we have the first batch... Come on guys $299 for a intake compared to $575 from EVO..
Old 06-15-2006, 08:58 PM
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Dan,

older K&N CAI kits caused issues with MAF and/or O2 sensors - on many cars, not just Porsche - what's the current thinking on this batch?

Also - I note that this unit is 'pending CARB status' which means it's illegal in California for example, and you'd be unable to take a smog test with this unit fitted to the car.

New California regulations stop the smog test center from even looking at your car if you have a non-CARB approved CAI fitted.

I had exactly this issue recently with a K&N CAI, 4 hrs before I was due to sell my car!

Lucky for me I'd kept the stock parts - and was able to do a retro-fit in time!

Even when CARB certified (assuming it passes certification) - you'd then have to send off for your own official CARB decal for the CAI - which takes 4 weeks!! - before you could smog test your car - either for registration or when selling the car.

The actual sticker MUST be on the car - no point saying 'it's approved' - it doesn't fly!

Worth bearing in mind......

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Originally Posted by vividracing
They have incorrect pricing and have been notified by K&N. Also we have the first batch... Come on guys $299 for a intake compared to $575 from EVO..
It's only a "bargin" in my eyes if it out performs the EVO. An independant test was discussed on 6speed, but it seemed to fall apart. You guys got a free one to donate for a test???

Let me be clear, I am not looking for a "freeby". However, there was a volunteer on 6speed that was willing to install both and have them dyno'd independant of both EVO and Vivid. I'd love to see that test if you and EVO would provide a few "free" models.

What is your stand?
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Finally the dyno chart released

http://www.kandn.com/dynocharts/63-7000.pdf
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I am ready except for the MAF and O2 issue. Is it solved? What did it do the MAF and O2 the first time around...destroy them I assume?
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There is no MAF issues and definitely no O2 issues. People damage MAF by over oiling filters. We use K&N products DAILY on cars, never a issue.
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Very strange setup on the dyno. I have played around with dynoing a few cars and we always run with smoothing to 0. Setting it to 5 will generally yield a lower #, but if it is same on both, it shoudl be inconsiquential. Also, the pulls were done in 3rd gear. This is very strange. Dyno pulls should always be done at 1:1 which in our cars is 4th gear. Not sure what effect it would have on the pulls.

Vivid, I have an EVO intake in route (fedex seems to have misplaced it for now), if you want to work out a test, I will do back to back runs, stock vs K&N vs EVO. I have access to a local dyno.
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I would trust Ed's report. Regarding the pano 247 price, it's real, my bud just ordered it. pn 63-7000
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