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Old 05-18-2006 | 04:03 PM
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As some of you guys might know I did an oil change after only about 10 miles due to my suspicion that the indy mech. had filled my car with 5W-30 instead of 0W-40. After draining my oil, I noticed that there were metal flakes in the drained oil.. they look kinda squareish like glitter... silver in color...

is this ok? My car only has 7200 miles on it!
Old 05-18-2006 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by delirium
As some of you guys might know I did an oil change after only about 10 miles due to my suspicion that the indy mech. had filled my car with 5W-30 instead of 0W-40. After draining my oil, I noticed that there were metal flakes in the drained oil.. they look kinda squareish like glitter... silver in color...

is this ok? My car only has 7200 miles on it!
Probably not, if they're truly metal shavings and not glitter. I think I'd be taking the drained oil/flakes to a dealer for another opinion. If this was the car's first oil change since new I suppose they could be few burrs from the manufacturing process that worked loose, but that doesn't sound like what you're seeing....................
Old 05-18-2006 | 08:22 PM
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I can't image the lighter oil caused this unless it's driven in hot weather w wrong viscosity for thousands of miles.

Drain some of the oil again after another couple hundred miles. See if the flakes are still there. If so, take it to the dealer with the 0-40w still in engine. You don't want to tell Porsche that wrong viscosity oil was ever used or else they'll use it to deny any warranty.

I think this is bad news. Good thing you have warranty so don't give Porsche any excuse to get out of an engine replacement should it come to that.
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Oh dear. not good.
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Originally Posted by snaproll
Probably not, if they're truly metal shavings and not glitter. I think I'd be taking the drained oil/flakes to a dealer for another opinion. If this was the car's first oil change since new I suppose they could be few burrs from the manufacturing process that worked loose, but that doesn't sound like what you're seeing....................
This is the cars second oil change, i have heard of some metal burrs in the oil on brand new cars, that is what I was thinking this was since the car only have 7200 miles on it?
Old 05-18-2006 | 09:50 PM
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send a sample of the oil to Blackstone Laboratory (Google the name)...they will tell you exaclty what the flakes are. I would definitely do this ASAP.
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I don't think you need to worry about it since you've got lots of warranty. You just might get a new engine (which is easily a 1 day job). Just make sure no one knows about the 5-30 oil.
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well, i drove literally 10 minutes w/ the 5W30 oil.. also, I already took the old oil to be disposed of.. Grrrr.
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This is normal, clean oil shows more metallic particulate matter than dirty oil because it's more transparent. All motors wear and the worn particles (metal) are suspended in a modern detergent oil and disposed of when the oil is dumped. Larger particles being heavier fall to the bottom of the pan and most will be drained out during an oil change. The largest stuff is caught in the filter and is held there. If the motor is driven easily for the first few hundred miles and oil changed regularly, most of the wear thereafter should be minimal, however it still does take place and you can see the results. I'm sure it had nothing to do with the lighter than recommended oil used unless you ran at extremely high rpms for a long time in really hot weather.
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Originally Posted by bgiere
send a sample of the oil to Blackstone Laboratory (Google the name)...they will tell you exaclty what the flakes are. I would definitely do this ASAP.
Ditto.
Old 05-19-2006 | 10:15 AM
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I don't know about the super Porsche brand but most cars have shavings during the break in period.
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agree with nick49... wouldnt worry about it
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run another hour or so...drain and collect a sample. 3-4 ounces is all that is needed for a lab to daignose. it cost $20 to have them look at it.
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Hope you mean 3 -4 ounces of oil not metal flakes. Now that would be worrying !
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Originally Posted by Scouser
Hope you mean 3 -4 ounces of oil not metal flakes. Now that would be worrying !
If you come up with 3 ounces of flakes, no need to send in a sample.....



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