Help - Non-start Problem
Hello,
I need some help with my 99 996 C2. It does not crank. The battery is good and everything seems to power up ok when I turn on the ignition. When trying to crank there is no response. My mechanic scanned the fault code and said it was the Immobilizer. I sent the Immobilizer to ECU Doctors and they could not find any problem.
We want to test the data stream from the rfid coil to the Immobilizer. We have the schematic and see there is a transponder between the coil and the Immobilizer. However, we cannot locate the transponder.
Where is the transponder?
Can we test the coil with an Ohmmeter?
If we use an oscilloscope, what should the signal look like?
Thank you.
I need some help with my 99 996 C2. It does not crank. The battery is good and everything seems to power up ok when I turn on the ignition. When trying to crank there is no response. My mechanic scanned the fault code and said it was the Immobilizer. I sent the Immobilizer to ECU Doctors and they could not find any problem.
We want to test the data stream from the rfid coil to the Immobilizer. We have the schematic and see there is a transponder between the coil and the Immobilizer. However, we cannot locate the transponder.
Where is the transponder?
Can we test the coil with an Ohmmeter?
If we use an oscilloscope, what should the signal look like?
Thank you.
The transponder antenna is a round ring around the ignition lock. The transponder itself is inside the key head.
There is also a small box attached to the ignition lock that the transponder antenna connects to if I recall.
I thought that when a start was attempted without a valid immobilizer signal that a fault code "immobilizer defeated start attempt" was stored though this might be on newer ones only.
There is also a small box attached to the ignition lock that the transponder antenna connects to if I recall.
I thought that when a start was attempted without a valid immobilizer signal that a fault code "immobilizer defeated start attempt" was stored though this might be on newer ones only.
@Viper1000 What is the ignition module? There is no part by that name in the manual.
We checked the coil with an Ohmmeter and reads 12 Ohms, which is correct per the repair manual. We replaced the transponder but the car still won't start. When we hard ground the control terminal on the starter relay the starter runs but the engine will not start.
We are not getting any codes now but the car still does not crank. If we get the cheap PIWIS tools mentioned here: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...only-75-a.html will we be able detect the presence of the key with the rfid pill when it is inserted in the ingntion switch?
We checked the coil with an Ohmmeter and reads 12 Ohms, which is correct per the repair manual. We replaced the transponder but the car still won't start. When we hard ground the control terminal on the starter relay the starter runs but the engine will not start.
We are not getting any codes now but the car still does not crank. If we get the cheap PIWIS tools mentioned here: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...only-75-a.html will we be able detect the presence of the key with the rfid pill when it is inserted in the ingntion switch?
@Viper1000 What is the ignition module? There is no part by that name in the manual.
We checked the coil with an Ohmmeter and reads 12 Ohms, which is correct per the repair manual. We replaced the transponder but the car still won't start. When we hard ground the control terminal on the starter relay the starter runs but the engine will not start.
We are not getting any codes now but the car still does not crank. If we get the cheap PIWIS tools mentioned here: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...only-75-a.html will we be able detect the presence of the key with the rfid pill when it is inserted in the ingntion switch?
We checked the coil with an Ohmmeter and reads 12 Ohms, which is correct per the repair manual. We replaced the transponder but the car still won't start. When we hard ground the control terminal on the starter relay the starter runs but the engine will not start.
We are not getting any codes now but the car still does not crank. If we get the cheap PIWIS tools mentioned here: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...only-75-a.html will we be able detect the presence of the key with the rfid pill when it is inserted in the ingntion switch?
@Viper1000 What is the ignition module? There is no part by that name in the manual.
We checked the coil with an Ohmmeter and reads 12 Ohms, which is correct per the repair manual. We replaced the transponder but the car still won't start. When we hard ground the control terminal on the starter relay the starter runs but the engine will not start.
We are not getting any codes now but the car still does not crank. If we get the cheap PIWIS tools mentioned here: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...only-75-a.html will we be able detect the presence of the key with the rfid pill when it is inserted in the ingntion switch?
We checked the coil with an Ohmmeter and reads 12 Ohms, which is correct per the repair manual. We replaced the transponder but the car still won't start. When we hard ground the control terminal on the starter relay the starter runs but the engine will not start.
We are not getting any codes now but the car still does not crank. If we get the cheap PIWIS tools mentioned here: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...only-75-a.html will we be able detect the presence of the key with the rfid pill when it is inserted in the ingntion switch?
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Thanks for the input on the PIWIS. I will go ahead and get it. Hopefully it will help solve the problem with my car.
Hooray, my car is fixed and running again! The mechanic found a bad power wire going to one of the computers. Thank you for all your help and suggestions.
I ordered the PIWIS clone. It will arrive in a few weeks. Even though it is no longer necessary to solve the non-start problem, I can have fun learning how to use it and get nervous if the cam deviation is nearing the end of the servicable range at 180k miles.
I ordered the PIWIS clone. It will arrive in a few weeks. Even though it is no longer necessary to solve the non-start problem, I can have fun learning how to use it and get nervous if the cam deviation is nearing the end of the servicable range at 180k miles.



