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Old 11-17-2021 | 04:42 PM
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worked well for me also.
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Old 11-17-2021 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Houtx996
Real question...how did you determine the inferiority of a product, are you parroting what people say here, or are there a consumer report with failure rates across the products, got a link to it?

Don't tell me it's what the vendor says.
Ok, I won’t tell you “it’s what the vendor says” (that would be a stupid argument - in fact, it’s stupid that you even suggested it…). Parroting? No sir… I did quite a bit of research on all the products available when I was getting ready to change my imsb (this was around 2016 after I had owned my car for 2-2 1/2 years). While they were a little more expensive than the others that were around at the time, FSI/LN Engineering clearly had the best/ most developed product with the most backing data to prove any claims they made. Not so with many of the others. Two points…

1) It’s a “copy cat product” - this is not to say it doesn’t or can’t work. Also, it looks like they’ve done quite a bit of updating since I researched them before I did my IMSB.
2) taking the oil from the oil port on the head doesn’t seem ideal to me for a couple reasons (filtering, oil pressure).

I could go on, but I’ve already spent more time than it’s worth to argue this point. I still recommend using LNE retrofit or The IMSSolution as they are the best most developed products available.
Old 11-17-2021 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dporto
Ok, I won’t tell you “it’s what the vendor says” (that would be a stupid argument - in fact, it’s stupid that you even suggested it…). Parroting? No sir… I did quite a bit of research on all the products available when I was getting ready to change my imsb (this was around 2016 after I had owned my car for 2-2 1/2 years). While they were a little more expensive than the others that were around at the time, FSI/LN Engineering clearly had the best/ most developed product with the most backing data to prove any claims they made. Not so with many of the others. Two points…

1) It’s a “copy cat product” - this is not to say it doesn’t or can’t work. Also, it looks like they’ve done quite a bit of updating since I researched them before I did my IMSB.
2) taking the oil from the oil port on the head doesn’t seem ideal to me for a couple reasons (filtering, oil pressure).

I could go on, but I’ve already spent more time than it’s worth to argue this point. I still recommend using LNE retrofit or The IMSSolution as they are the best most developed products available.
ok yeah, so nothing new, just your product choice. question is still how do you arrive at such a generic statement of "FSI/LN Engineering clearly had the best/ most developed product" while taking a dump on a guy picking a different product.

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Old 11-17-2021 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dporto
Ok, I won’t tell you “it’s what the vendor says” (that would be a stupid argument - in fact, it’s stupid that you even suggested it…). Parroting? No sir… I did quite a bit of research on all the products available when I was getting ready to change my imsb (this was around 2016 after I had owned my car for 2-2 1/2 years). While they were a little more expensive than the others that were around at the time, FSI/LN Engineering clearly had the best/ most developed product with the most backing data to prove any claims they made. Not so with many of the others. Two points…

1) It’s a “copy cat product” - this is not to say it doesn’t or can’t work. Also, it looks like they’ve done quite a bit of updating since I researched them before I did my IMSB.
2) taking the oil from the oil port on the head doesn’t seem ideal to me for a couple reasons (filtering, oil pressure).

I could go on, but I’ve already spent more time than it’s worth to argue this point. I still recommend using LNE retrofit or The IMSSolution as they are the best most developed products available.

My point was that we should respect other's decisions on what they think is best for their cars. I've seen in the past few days you argue or make comments that are unnecessary to three different people about what they have chosen to use, I don't understand what you gain by that?
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Old 11-17-2021 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dporto
Ok, I won’t tell you “it’s what the vendor says” (that would be a stupid argument - in fact, it’s stupid that you even suggested it…). Parroting? No sir… I did quite a bit of research on all the products available when I was getting ready to change my imsb (this was around 2016 after I had owned my car for 2-2 1/2 years). While they were a little more expensive than the others that were around at the time, FSI/LN Engineering clearly had the best/ most developed product with the most backing data to prove any claims they made. Not so with many of the others. Two points…

1) It’s a “copy cat product” - this is not to say it doesn’t or can’t work. Also, it looks like they’ve done quite a bit of updating since I researched them before I did my IMSB.
2) taking the oil from the oil port on the head doesn’t seem ideal to me for a couple reasons (filtering, oil pressure).

I could go on, but I’ve already spent more time than it’s worth to argue this point. I still recommend using LNE retrofit or The IMSSolution as they are the best most developed products available.
I have no doubt they're a superior product and I value your input. For me, it would be like putting lipstick on a pig. If my C2 had half the mileage and half the issues I wouldn't even think twice. Now if you told me that the resale value would offset the cost then I'd be dumb not to invest in it.
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Old 11-17-2021 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Yogibara
I have no doubt they're a superior product and I value your input. For me, it would be like putting lipstick on a pig. If my C2 had half the mileage and half the issues I wouldn't even think twice. Now if you told me that the resale value would offset the cost then I'd be dumb not to invest in it.
There’s no doubt in my mind that if you put the IMS Solution in the car, you could absolutely add the cost of the part to the sale (and you’d get it). What many people seem to forget is that the “solution” is reusable (unlike the retrofit (ball) or roller bearings...
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Originally Posted by hbdunn
My point was that we should respect other's decisions on what they think is best for their cars. I've seen in the past few days you argue or make comments that are unnecessary to three different people about what they have chosen to use, I don't understand what you gain by that?
I don’t gain anything besides trying to point out potentially better products/decisions, and trying to shed some light on more affordable yet questionable products. One of the things that the low resale value of the 996 has created is a massive base of “bargain hunter” car buyers. In turn, now that folks have been able to buy these cars for pennies on the dollar, they’re trying to modify/fix them for the same kind of money.
Old 11-17-2021 | 11:53 PM
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Don't worry, Jake Raby will not respond to these IMS bearing threads unless the facts of his patent are communicated incorrectly.
When you say his patent, you mean his AND Charles patent, right ?
Old 11-18-2021 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dporto
There’s no doubt in my mind that if you put the IMS Solution in the car, you could absolutely add the cost of the part to the sale (and you’d get it). What many people seem to forget is that the “solution” is reusable (unlike the retrofit (ball) or roller bearings...
BINGO!
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If you can, return the motorcycle jack and buy the heavy duty lift table from hf. Larger surface and works perfect for pulling engines
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Old 11-18-2021 | 10:57 AM
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If you can, return the motorcycle jack and buy the heavy duty lift table from hf. Larger surface and works perfect for pulling engines
Believe me, I would if I could. They’re sold out in my surrounding area and even the stores that claim to have it, don’t. So my second option was this lift. It’ll work fine.
Old 11-18-2021 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dporto
What many people seem to forget is that the “solution” is reusable (unlike the retrofit (ball) or roller bearings...
Can you point me to where this is stated? I've looked at the ims solution very closely before having the retrofit done and have not seen such claim not have I heard of anyone transferring their solution from one motor to another.
Old 11-18-2021 | 12:08 PM
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Believe me, I would if I could. They’re sold out in my surrounding area and even the stores that claim to have it, don’t. So my second option was this lift. It’ll work fine.
Same issue for me over a year ago, no stock on lift table.
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The motor in my 02 C2 was rebuilt prior to me buying it and reused the IMS Solution, which was installed several years earlier to when the head developed a crack under one of the valve guides. Both top and bottom end were rebuilt. So at least in the case of my car the IMS Solution was reusable.
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Old 11-18-2021 | 12:23 PM
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Cracked under one of the valve seats, I meant to write...



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