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Worrying about future value is paralyzing and enormously diminishes the current enjoyment. Been there, done that w my E92 M3.
I’ll be pumping way more $$ into my highly modified ‘99 C2 than it will ever be worth but I’m enjoying the ride.
Worrying about future value is paralyzing and enormously diminishes the current enjoyment. Been there, done that w my E92 M3.
I’ll be pumping way more $$ into my highly modified ‘99 C2 than it will ever be worth but I’m enjoying the ride.
One anecdote, because you may be wrong about it’s eventual worth…
In September I sold a 2000 996 Cab with 98,500 miles for $26,000. I bought it 3 1/2 years prior for 18,000 when it had exactly 10,000 less miles on it. I sold it to the first guy who responded to me on CL. I was merely testing the waters with that ad, because I was approaching 100k miles, and a minor run-in with skin cancer told me it was time to stop driving a convertible.
I think we have good reason to be hopeful that our 996s will continue to go up in value if they are well cared for, and can make it through a PPI successfully.
The sale last month allowed me to turn around and buy an unmolested “low-ish” mileage ‘99 C2 coupe. I think it has already increased in value!
Let's not kid ourselves. All engines will eventually need a rebuild, because all engines have problems. A buddy from PCA already had an engine failure on his GT3 a few years after he bought it new. And he is now potentially facing another large problem.
But this reality doesn't take away from the attractiveness of a turbo. You have a more powerful dry sump engine, and, big brake kit, and it's a turbo which the average Joe finds more attractive than a normally aspirated engine. Doesn't mean it's right or wrong, it is just what it is...
This picture is from a 4.0 GT2RS. It is in Formula garage Houston. This engine, let’s say IMS
was the throttle plate. I rotated the plate to show the piece that broke off, look to the left this was swallowed and cylinder number six is messed up. How much is this going to cost to fix???
This picture is from a 4.0 GT2RS. It is in Formula garage Houston. This engine, let’s say IMS
was the throttle plate. I rotated the plate to show the piece that broke off, look to the left this was swallowed and cylinder number six is messed up. How much is this going to cost to fix???
Luis, this one is beyond my skill set or expertise. Sure someone may have an answer. Awesome car, but I suspect it's very expensive to maintain. Multiples on the costs we incur.
Good grief even changing tires on that car takes a pit crew. The GT's have evolved into higher and higher strata of cost and maintenance.
Originally Posted by GC996
Luis, this one is beyond my skill set or expertise. Sure someone may have an answer. Awesome car, but I suspect it's very expensive to maintain. Multiples on the costs we incur.
Good grief even changing tires on that car takes a pit crew. The GT's have evolved into higher and higher strata of cost and maintenance.
yeah i was told a brake job was approaching $12k. The one lug wheels i was told was a $20k option. By the way the failure on the throttle plate i was told was by the constant opening closing of it, car was driven hard, but failure at less than 20,000 miles. I seen plenty of them, never driven one, but I love to see that tach needle climbing to redline. My 79 rx 7 had a 9,000 rpm redline.
Correct me if wrong, but that is a 997.2 GT which is not Mezger, but rather a dry-sump DFI variant, correct? Prob explains the relative lack of "robustness". I could be wrong I don't recall exactly when the GT's abandoned the Mezger. I know the standard 997.2 Turbo dropped it in lieu of turbocharged wet-sump DFI. No way the GT2's are wet-sump, but they did change over to a dry-sump version of the standard Carrera motor at some recent point; albeit with upgraded "parts"
Originally Posted by 3/98 911 coupe
yeah i was told a brake job was approaching $12k. The one lug wheels i was told was a $20k option. By the way the failure on the throttle plate i was told was by the constant opening closing of it, car was driven hard, but failure at less than 20,000 miles. I seen plenty of them, never driven one, but I love to see that tach needle climbing to redline. My 79 rx 7 had a 9,000 rpm redline.
Correct me if wrong, but that is a 997.2 GT which is not Mezger, but rather a dry-sump DFI variant, correct?
The 997 GT cars used the Mezger design until the end - they did not convert to the new architecture as the 997.2 Turbo did. The final variants produced some serious power as Porsche was really going for it in the Mezger's swansong. A nice side effect of this is that the 3.8 and 4.0 parts can be used on the 996 Mezger engines.
Correct me if wrong, but that is a 997.2 GT which is not Mezger, but rather a dry-sump DFI variant, correct? ....I could be wrong I don't recall exactly when the GT's abandoned the Mezger.
I believe the following is correct for Mezger -> DFI transition for street cars (although Porsche Motorsports continued using the Mezger even in some 991 race cars)
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I'm in the same boat, although my colors aren't as nice as yours. I have a 99 in Arena Red and an 01 turbo in Guards Red. I've had the 99 for a little over 2 years and the turbo for about 6 months. The turbo is starting to grow on me but I still really like the 99. I think I'm gonna let the 99 go but I'm really hesitant because I bought it locally for a good price and the engine has been rebuilt to a 3.6 with nickies. I have a feeling that if I ever try to find another C2 in a nice color with a properly rebuilt engine it's gonna cost a ton.
Originally Posted by bdronsick
If MKI was available here that would be a no-brainer; that would literally be the 1999 & the Turbo combined into one flawlessly executed car.
Haha! I often think the same thing when thinking about both cars.
I believe the following is correct for Mezger -> DFI transition for street cars (although Porsche Motorsports continued using the Mezger even in some 991 race cars)
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Interesting info. Learn something new every day on RL. Since the 997.2 turbo and 991.1 GTs don't use mezger engines, gives folks something to worry about and complain. Maybee prices will dip to 40k and we all have a buying opportunity. 😁
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