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I had a friend who blew the IMS on a 996 and he opted for a $9K rebuilt engine swap. That was 5 years ago and he is still driving the car. The car was in good shape so it was worth saving. As for this car, I think a cracked head repair is $5K? A swap with a rebuilt engine is $10K-11K? I would avoid a used engine. You never know what devil you are gonna get.
That's precisely my fear as well. Beyond that, it would be nice future where there aren't "996 engine failure..." posts like mine and swapping a used one could very well be kicking the can down the road.
That's precisely my fear as well. Beyond that, it would be nice future where there aren't "996 engine failure..." posts like mine and swapping a used one could very well be kicking the can down the road.
Looks like you are now down to only two options.
1. Sell it as is and take a loss.
2. Or get it rebuilt, assuming the damage was not catastrophic. The question is then whether you do it yourself for under 15k or you find an engine builder that will cost you 15-35k.
17684535[/url]]That's precisely my fear as well. Beyond that, it would be nice future where there aren't "996 engine failure..." posts like mine and swapping a used one could very well be kicking the can down the road.
Thats true, but remember, the default experience for these cars is the engine does not fail and works just fine. As bad as the issues are with these engines breaking, it’s still not common, or even close to 50%. So the smart money, if you are a risk taker, is buy a used engine that’s been inspected, and chances are, it will work just fine.
It’s true that eventually, with enough cold starts and hard miles, these engines will eventually need to be rebuilt. But most engines from other car markets are no different. So again, a used engine might sound like a gamble, but the gamble is in buying one sight unseen without an inspection.
That's the plan. Anyone have any thoughts on pricing?
I have already run into two of his engines. Both people I spoke with were happy. Looking at what used engines are going for I would buy one of his rebuilts. I also spoke with Joe personally, pretty cool guy, even told me to drop by
if I was over there. He also sells a Ton of Porsche parts pretty reasonable prices. Unless you just have a cracked head.
I have already run into two of his engines. Both people I spoke with were happy. Looking at what used engines are going for I would buy one of his rebuilts. I also spoke with Joe personally, pretty cool guy, even told me to drop by
if I was over there. He also sells a Ton of Porsche parts pretty reasonable prices. Unless you just have a cracked head.
^^^ For $10.5k or $11.5 k what does “rebuild” mean? My understanding is that $10.5k just about (maybe not even) covers the parts needed to do a proper rebuild... Is Joe building these motors for free (no charge for labor?)? Maybe he’s fabricating all the new parts in his back yard? Something doesn’t add up in that price - caveat emptor!
^^^ For $10.5k or $11.5 k what does “rebuild” mean? My understanding is that $10.5k just about (maybe not even) covers the parts needed to do a proper rebuild... Is Joe building these motors for free (no charge for labor?)? Maybe he’s fabricating all the new parts in his back yard? Something doesn’t add up in that price - caveat emptor!
Alex at 9xx also is close to those prices. The more I get to know Porsche guys in the club I find more and more options at reasonable prices. As an example I did this in March, I’m in the Houston area. 5 shops, replace AOS and hoses parts included. One shop $2600 and it was not a Porsche dealer. Most affordable was $975 and it also included replacing serpentine belt. That shop also basically did a free post purchase inspection on my car. The manager also told me about all other mods I didn’t know I had, rss, konis, hr, fab speed, straight car bent driver side rear wheel. There are deals to be had , you just have to shop. Right now I just paid $375 for 2 continental ssr run flats 225/50/17 with 40,000 miles prorated warranty included, life time balancing and rotation for my wife’s Mercedes. Now I negotiated that yesterday with the mgr and I have been buying tires from him at discount tires for 20 years.
Last edited by 3/98 911 coupe; 09-28-2021 at 12:45 PM.
Sounds like the rebuild includes : Rebuilt motor : 3.6 ltr, case disassembled cleaned and checked, full cylinder head job, main brgs, rod brgs, gasket set, chains, chain rails, pin chain wheels, IMS brg installed, new rings if needed, new AOS, fuel injectors cleaned and serviced, lifters replaced. That's the quick and dirty explanation given by their site. I'm sure you could add to that if you want to but could be a viable option for someone not wanting or able to do a $25k+ build.
seems they hope to find case halves with no scoring and then just use the old rings to help ring seal with already oval cylinders. Limited machine work on the case halves and not needing pistons certainly accounts for a big part of the cost savings, but seems pretty half assed.
seems they hope to find case halves with no scoring and then just use the old rings to help ring seal with already oval cylinders. Limited machine work on the case halves and not needing pistons certainly accounts for a big part of the cost savings, but seems pretty half assed.
not certain about what you call Half assed. But if you look at drop motors with 115 to 125k miles for $9,000 this makes a lot of sense
for Me. The heads have
5
angle jobs.
not certain about what you call Half assed. But if you look at drop motors with 115 to 125k miles for $9,000 this makes a lot of sense
for Me. The heads have
5
angle jobs.
taking a motor of unknown mileage and reusing the rings seems half assed to me. You can feel free to disagree. Putting new rings into an oval bore is also half assed.
compared to a 9k take out motor, this could potentially be better, or worse, depending how the work was done .
Also, who knows if this engine requires a core charge, which can be as much as 4k
taking a motor of unknown mileage and reusing the rings seems half assed to me. You can feel free to disagree. Putting new rings into an oval bore is also half assed.
compared to a 9k take out motor, this could potentially be better, or worse, depending how the work was done .
Also, who knows if this engine requires a core charge, which can be as much as 4k
I’m pretty good managing money and making money related decisions. I am not going to force my decisions or opinions on anyone, what I can tell you is that for 8 years, fidelity, vanguard, fisher and a bunch of others have wanted to manage my assets and when we sit down and do an apples to apples 5 year return evaluation they can’t beat my returns. since I dealt with people from over 110 countries worldwide, I learned that is always easier with OPM ( others people money). Anyway, on my car we are going to do a leak down, compression test, and reruns the cam deviations, fuel trims, plus pull the plugs to make a fair evaluation of the condition of the engine. It runs great feels strong, accelerates hard and I’m approaching 7,000 miles of ownership. Just want to know where I stand at with this motor, and again I ain’t going to track it, I’ll take it supersonic every chance I get.
09-23-2021, 12:26 PM
