996 Engine Failure? Looking for confirmation
#16
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Good luck, check the oil, filter and plugs like I said above and report back…
#17
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Any sign the water pump is leaking? Was the water pump replaced anytime recently after the original pump failed?
I'd definitely drain the engine. If there is coolant in the oil (which I would expect considering there is none in the reservoir), I wouldn't both with doing any further diagnostics or trying to run the engine further. It's going to have to come out. As a previous poster mentioned, it's likely a cracked cylinder or cracked head.
I'd definitely drain the engine. If there is coolant in the oil (which I would expect considering there is none in the reservoir), I wouldn't both with doing any further diagnostics or trying to run the engine further. It's going to have to come out. As a previous poster mentioned, it's likely a cracked cylinder or cracked head.
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Any sign the water pump is leaking? Was the water pump replaced anytime recently after the original pump failed?
I'd definitely drain the engine. If there is coolant in the oil (which I would expect considering there is none in the reservoir), I wouldn't both with doing any further diagnostics or trying to run the engine further. It's going to have to come out. As a previous poster mentioned, it's likely a cracked cylinder or cracked head.
I'd definitely drain the engine. If there is coolant in the oil (which I would expect considering there is none in the reservoir), I wouldn't both with doing any further diagnostics or trying to run the engine further. It's going to have to come out. As a previous poster mentioned, it's likely a cracked cylinder or cracked head.
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Then I'm pretty sure it's a cracked head. That's why I asked. Depending on how long you've been driving it with coolant intrusion into the crankcase will determine how much damage was caused to the engine internals. I'm not sure that simply replacing the heads will solve the problem.
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#20
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For sure, was thinking maybe the smoke could have been completely AOS related, but a long shot. Yeah, I also think cracked head.
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I know I'm getting ahead of myself here without full confirmation - assuming its a cracked head.
My goal here is to minimize loss (monetary) reason being is I really don't see myself enjoying long term ownership of this particular 996. If I had the disposable income, I may have considered converting this into a track capable car but would prefer a coupe instead of the chassis flexing cab life.
Options I'm considering:
My goal here is to minimize loss (monetary) reason being is I really don't see myself enjoying long term ownership of this particular 996. If I had the disposable income, I may have considered converting this into a track capable car but would prefer a coupe instead of the chassis flexing cab life.
Options I'm considering:
- Send car out for engine rebuild $15-20k. Probably worst option from a $ perspective. I wouldn't get too much more on the market for a rebuild unless i opt for the 3.6 -> 4.0 upgrade.
- Drop engine and ship for rebuild $10k? I'm not really sure on cost as I haven't seen many threads about people doing this definitely need more info. My guess is it would just move me sideways.
- Sell as a roller. Anyone have any thoughts on current market value? 02 cab with 84k miles. New PS4S, 18" wheels, brakes have good life, paint is 7.5/10, interior 7.5/10, ims and clutch serviced, new engine mounts, starter, starter cable, fuel sending unit, water pump, good documentation and a few other items serviced.
Last edited by iRiamo; 09-22-2021 at 03:58 PM.
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Then I'm pretty sure it's a cracked head. That's why I asked. Depending on how long you've been driving it with coolant intrusion into the crankcase will determine how much damage was caused to the engine internals. I'm not sure that simply replacing the heads will solve the problem.
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Originally Posted by iRiamo;[url=tel:17682532
17682532]I know I'm getting ahead of myself here without full confirmation - assuming its a cracked head.
My goal here is to minimize loss (monetary).
Options I'm considering:
My goal here is to minimize loss (monetary).
Options I'm considering:
- Send car out for engine rebuild $15-20k. Probably worst option from a $ perspective. I wouldn't get too much more on the market for a rebuild unless i opt for the 3.6 -> 4.0 upgrade.
- Drop engine and ship for rebuild $10k? I'm not really sure on cost as I haven't seen many threads about people doing this definitely need more info. My guess is it would just move me sideways.
- Sell as a roller. Anyone have any thoughts on current market value? 02 cab with 84k miles. New PS4S, 18" wheels, brakes have good life, paint is 7.5/10, interior 7.5/10, ims and clutch serviced, new engine mounts, starter, starter cable, fuel sending unit, water pump, good documentation and a few other items serviced.
Or find a used engine and swap it in.
Uses engines are out there.
Last edited by Mike Murphy; 09-22-2021 at 04:01 PM.
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Eh kinda depends. 996s have gone up in value, but rollers havent much from what ive seen. Id say his best bet is to drop in used engine and try to sell whatever he can from old engine.
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time for a junkyard truck motor
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I know I'm getting ahead of myself here without full confirmation - assuming its a cracked head.
My goal here is to minimize loss (monetary) reason being is I really don't see myself enjoying long term ownership of this particular 996. If I had the disposable income, I may have considered converting this into a track capable car but would prefer a coupe instead of the chassis flexing cab life.
Options I'm considering:
My goal here is to minimize loss (monetary) reason being is I really don't see myself enjoying long term ownership of this particular 996. If I had the disposable income, I may have considered converting this into a track capable car but would prefer a coupe instead of the chassis flexing cab life.
Options I'm considering:
- Send car out for engine rebuild $15-20k. Probably worst option from a $ perspective. I wouldn't get too much more on the market for a rebuild unless i opt for the 3.6 -> 4.0 upgrade.
- Drop engine and ship for rebuild $10k? I'm not really sure on cost as I haven't seen many threads about people doing this definitely need more info. My guess is it would just move me sideways.
- Sell as a roller. Anyone have any thoughts on current market value? 02 cab with 84k miles. New PS4S, 18" wheels, brakes have good life, paint is 7.5/10, interior 7.5/10, ims and clutch serviced, new engine mounts, starter, starter cable, fuel sending unit, water pump, good documentation and a few other items serviced.
Please keep us posted on what you find with the engine and what you decide to do.
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#30
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I had a friend who blew the IMS on a 996 and he opted for a $9K rebuilt engine swap. That was 5 years ago and he is still driving the car. The car was in good shape so it was worth saving. As for this car, I think a cracked head repair is $5K? A swap with a rebuilt engine is $10K-11K? I would avoid a used engine. You never know what devil you are gonna get.