996 RSR (Flying Lizard)
08-19-2021 | 10:28 AM
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I wish I had enough down time to make it’s own thread. Between building this, raising our first born, and work there isn’t much tile left in the day :/
it’s take 5 years to source parts Bc they’re all oem. It took over two years to build. There’s times where I decide to go deeper down the rabbit whole and fitting the parts. Learning what Porsche did through its motorsports endeavors is a whole other area of time. Just the underbody carbon cost 10k and good luck sourcing a set. All the body parts are oem carbon, even the hood. The suspension is all gt3 rsr, including the brakes. Those brakes used and new was around 10k. All the ducting for brakes and cooling. I built the headlights to work for the street with oem mounting brackets. Oem Clubsport cage. I went with csf radiators which made fitting the bumper a nightmare Bc they’re thicker than what the R cars ran. I’m running an electric oem ps setup and going to be running an electric ac setup at some point. No ebrake due to grandam brakes. I used some uk rhd interior pieces when deleting hood releases and electric mirrors. I also plan to do a 997 3.8 motor swap for 400 hp, that’s the motor you see in the background. My weight goal is 2700lbs. I’m also waiting to get enough extra cash to get a set of carbon street doors. Any one want to sponsor that
lol
I can just go on and on on what has been done. I know there’s at least 100k invested in to this build.
it’s take 5 years to source parts Bc they’re all oem. It took over two years to build. There’s times where I decide to go deeper down the rabbit whole and fitting the parts. Learning what Porsche did through its motorsports endeavors is a whole other area of time. Just the underbody carbon cost 10k and good luck sourcing a set. All the body parts are oem carbon, even the hood. The suspension is all gt3 rsr, including the brakes. Those brakes used and new was around 10k. All the ducting for brakes and cooling. I built the headlights to work for the street with oem mounting brackets. Oem Clubsport cage. I went with csf radiators which made fitting the bumper a nightmare Bc they’re thicker than what the R cars ran. I’m running an electric oem ps setup and going to be running an electric ac setup at some point. No ebrake due to grandam brakes. I used some uk rhd interior pieces when deleting hood releases and electric mirrors. I also plan to do a 997 3.8 motor swap for 400 hp, that’s the motor you see in the background. My weight goal is 2700lbs. I’m also waiting to get enough extra cash to get a set of carbon street doors. Any one want to sponsor that
lolI can just go on and on on what has been done. I know there’s at least 100k invested in to this build.
08-19-2021 | 10:30 AM
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08-19-2021 | 12:17 PM
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Thanks Dr Stangelove.
The sky isn't necessarily the limit as I don't want to completely burn money. Call me crazy/wrong but I would like to think someone would take this off my hands one day for what I'm in for or as I think this will be well considered and very cool project. I am also currently doing an 82 SC backdate (73 RS) which whilst is a completely different car and popular, is a similar concept/idea (cheap base car, build over time properly, put a lot of thought in, get the right people to do it) etc etc. My backdate looks like a £100k ($140k USD) car and sounds amazing, when in fact its worth half of that.
The kit, fabrication and wheels are agreed at around £25k ($35k) which I plan on doing first plus suspension will need to be done (as I can't drive the thing without the front lift kit, can't fit the front lift without knowing/buying the suspension of choice. Perhaps exhaust, seats and half cage. Then do brakes and engine at a later stage.
Probably aim to spend another £25k ($35k USD) over time so £50k ($70k USD) all in.
When I say I can't afford a GT3 I mean I can't afford the GT3 as a base car as you are looking at £80k ($110k USD) just for the base car plus the RSR works of £30k-50k ($40k-70k USD). Whereas my C2 was £17k ($23k USD).
The sky isn't necessarily the limit as I don't want to completely burn money. Call me crazy/wrong but I would like to think someone would take this off my hands one day for what I'm in for or as I think this will be well considered and very cool project. I am also currently doing an 82 SC backdate (73 RS) which whilst is a completely different car and popular, is a similar concept/idea (cheap base car, build over time properly, put a lot of thought in, get the right people to do it) etc etc. My backdate looks like a £100k ($140k USD) car and sounds amazing, when in fact its worth half of that.
The kit, fabrication and wheels are agreed at around £25k ($35k) which I plan on doing first plus suspension will need to be done (as I can't drive the thing without the front lift kit, can't fit the front lift without knowing/buying the suspension of choice. Perhaps exhaust, seats and half cage. Then do brakes and engine at a later stage.
Probably aim to spend another £25k ($35k USD) over time so £50k ($70k USD) all in.
When I say I can't afford a GT3 I mean I can't afford the GT3 as a base car as you are looking at £80k ($110k USD) just for the base car plus the RSR works of £30k-50k ($40k-70k USD). Whereas my C2 was £17k ($23k USD).
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08-19-2021 | 12:27 PM
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08-19-2021 | 12:29 PM
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08-19-2021 | 12:36 PM
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Also, excuse my ignorance in case you're not familiar with FSI (Flat Six Innovation) as I see you're from the other side of the pond
They're a popular option for engine rebuilds.
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08-19-2021 | 12:42 PM
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Sure! Let's say you purchased an FSI engine (this applies to just about anything aftermarket, like coilovers, wheels etc) for an X amount of money and decide to sell the car, the chances are slim to none that you will recoup the entire investment you made into the new engine or other aftermarket parts. We've just seen this represented in a recent auction of an awesome car with an awesome engine, however, the market didn't want to pay the amount the owner was hoping for and ended up keeping the car. The return tends to be 30% to 50%, depending on the part in question.
Also, excuse my ignorance in case you're not familiar with FSI (Flat Six Innovation) as I see you're from the other side of the pond They're a popular option for engine rebuilds.
Also, excuse my ignorance in case you're not familiar with FSI (Flat Six Innovation) as I see you're from the other side of the pond
They're a popular option for engine rebuilds.
08-19-2021 | 12:53 PM
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08-19-2021 | 12:56 PM
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People have had mixed results with GT Racing and their pricing is a little strange, some stuff seems a little on the low side and other stuff wickedly expensive.
That all said, if I don’t end up putting used stuff on my car - I’ll likely be going with them for some parts in the future.
That all said, if I don’t end up putting used stuff on my car - I’ll likely be going with them for some parts in the future.
08-19-2021 | 02:39 PM
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Maybe maybe not...there is big demand for road legal cup cars in the UK at the moment. I know lots of people doing similar builds and making £10k-25k a pop.
Also remember...£1 = $1 for some reason with cars in the US so really I would assume I am spending $50k not $75k so isn't so bad. But yes..its a risk :-)
Also remember...£1 = $1 for some reason with cars in the US so really I would assume I am spending $50k not $75k so isn't so bad. But yes..its a risk :-)
08-21-2021 | 09:12 AM
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Maybe maybe not...there is big demand for road legal cup cars in the UK at the moment. I know lots of people doing similar builds and making £10k-25k a pop.
Also remember...£1 = $1 for some reason with cars in the US so really I would assume I am spending $50k not $75k so isn't so bad. But yes..its a risk :-)
Also remember...£1 = $1 for some reason with cars in the US so really I would assume I am spending $50k not $75k so isn't so bad. But yes..its a risk :-)
Exactly how are you going to make a profit of 10-25k converting a street legal 996 NB into the Flying Lizard 996 WB?
08-21-2021 | 09:25 AM
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I wish I had enough down time to make it’s own thread. Between building this, raising our first born, and work there isn’t much tile left in the day :/
it’s take 5 years to source parts Bc they’re all oem. It took over two years to build. There’s times where I decide to go deeper down the rabbit whole and fitting the parts. Learning what Porsche did through its motorsports endeavors is a whole other area of time. Just the underbody carbon cost 10k and good luck sourcing a set. All the body parts are oem carbon, even the hood. The suspension is all gt3 rsr, including the brakes. Those brakes used and new was around 10k. All the ducting for brakes and cooling. I built the headlights to work for the street with oem mounting brackets. Oem Clubsport cage. I went with csf radiators which made fitting the bumper a nightmare Bc they’re thicker than what the R cars ran. I’m running an electric oem ps setup and going to be running an electric ac setup at some point. No ebrake due to grandam brakes. I used some uk rhd interior pieces when deleting hood releases and electric mirrors. I also plan to do a 997 3.8 motor swap for 400 hp, that’s the motor you see in the background. My weight goal is 2700lbs. I’m also waiting to get enough extra cash to get a set of carbon street doors. Any one want to sponsor that lol
I can just go on and on on what has been done. I know there’s at least 100k invested in to this build.
it’s take 5 years to source parts Bc they’re all oem. It took over two years to build. There’s times where I decide to go deeper down the rabbit whole and fitting the parts. Learning what Porsche did through its motorsports endeavors is a whole other area of time. Just the underbody carbon cost 10k and good luck sourcing a set. All the body parts are oem carbon, even the hood. The suspension is all gt3 rsr, including the brakes. Those brakes used and new was around 10k. All the ducting for brakes and cooling. I built the headlights to work for the street with oem mounting brackets. Oem Clubsport cage. I went with csf radiators which made fitting the bumper a nightmare Bc they’re thicker than what the R cars ran. I’m running an electric oem ps setup and going to be running an electric ac setup at some point. No ebrake due to grandam brakes. I used some uk rhd interior pieces when deleting hood releases and electric mirrors. I also plan to do a 997 3.8 motor swap for 400 hp, that’s the motor you see in the background. My weight goal is 2700lbs. I’m also waiting to get enough extra cash to get a set of carbon street doors. Any one want to sponsor that
lolI can just go on and on on what has been done. I know there’s at least 100k invested in to this build.