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Old 03-16-2004, 06:22 PM
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Porsche motorsport does not sell it anymore
Old 03-17-2004, 02:51 AM
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Brey Krause sells this kit.
Old 03-17-2004, 10:18 AM
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This brings up an old argument. The oil starvation kit was for the 3.4L engine. The 2002 996 is 3.6, and the argument is that the 3.6L does not need the oil starvation kit since it was improved over the 3.4L. The counter-argument is that the X51 upgrade includes an oil starvation kit. Whetehr the counter argument is true or not I don't know. I do know that I looked for an oil starvation kit several months ago for the 2002 3.6L engine, and found none available. That included Porsche motorsport.
Old 03-17-2004, 11:53 AM
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well the 3.6 does appear suffer from the oil starvation, i just happened to notice this for myself when i took an extremely sharp corner and noticed my oil pressure fell all the way down to 0
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What is really strange is that my 3.4l does not seem to suffer from this problem in the canyons. I drive my car extremely hard and have not ever seen a dip in pressure etc. I have been in a 3.6l c4s however and have seen it happen at the same or less g load-
Old 03-17-2004, 02:02 PM
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Like I said, old arguments. I've tracked my car several times with R-compound racing tires. Although I don't have a G meter, I ran those R compounds to their maximum grip (and beyond, heh-heh ), eventually down to the cord. Not a hint of oil starvation. However, there was a video at another board of a DE where a 3.4L blew an engine. This was at the section of the track that had a loooong banked curve taken at high speed. Gossip was that it was due to oil starvation.

Arguments aside, anyone know for a fact whether or not there is an aftermarket oil startvation kit for the 3.6 simillar to what's available for the 3.4?
Old 03-17-2004, 04:59 PM
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You're going to have to get the parts from an X 51 kit to up grade your oil system on the 3.6, if in fact PMSNA is no longer selling a kit. The kit is plainly visible on the picture of the X51 motor with Varioram-Plus that Porsche was advertising a few months ago in all the magazines. You can believe in oil starvation or not, but I personally wouldn't run racing slicks on any M96 engine without the kit, R compound tires are ok. You'll have to find someone with the PET catalog for the part numbers, maybe Loren can chime in.
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You think Porsche would just make it right already!

Go back to a true drysump, PORSCHE!
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If the 3.4 blowing the engine video was the one from TWS, I was there that day, it occurred on a high G/ high speed right hand turn, I never found out what exactly caused the failure. The oil starvation on 3.4 engines occurs on the 4-6 cam side during high G left hand turns, according to Porsche Motorsports, that's the side with the extra oil tube on the kit.

That BK kit looks interesting, anybody know the price?
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Originally posted by agentpennypacker
You think Porsche would just make it right already!

Go back to a true drysump, PORSCHE!
One of the reasons I lust after the GT3. There was a GT3 with only several hundred miles on the clock that was run off the road and was on E-bay. Looked like the drivetrain was intact. It was the wrong time for me, though.

Doug, I don't think you can just buy the X51 parts to upgrade. The cylinder head would also have to be bored for the new piping. Too much hassle unless you plan to race. Anyways, I don't foresee the need for racing slicks. At my stage of the game, R compounds are plenty grippy. The 3.6L liter stock"dry sump" should serve me well until i get a true race car . Hey, I can dream, can't I?
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Palting, too bad you can't get the X51 parts, you're right it is a lot of hassle if you're not running slicks. At our (DE) level I don't think it is really necessary. But that BK kit does look interesting.....
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Shouldn't this problem be easily documented? If the oil pressure truly dropped to zero, wouldn't that trigger a critical fault and turn on the oil light. Not only would this stay on long enough that there would be no question there was a problem, but could be read after the fact by the dealer.
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your right roger, and my dealer said the standard 996 is a regular car first and a sports car 2nd, and that i needed a GT3 or GT2
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Originally posted by NiveK
your right roger, and my dealer said the standard 996 is a regular car first and a sports car 2nd, and that i needed a GT3 or GT2
Porsche is a REGULAR car? And this guy SELLS Porsches for a living?
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ya i guess he was trying to say the 996 isn't the raw sports car that the GT3 and GT2 are, either way, even if i was in a honda id be driving the hell out of it


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