puff of smoke on the track - from what?
#16
Rennlist Member
loupue, are you talking about halfway between the top mark and bottom mark? That is the recommendation from Jake and several others (measured cold) I thought.
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#18
RL Community Team
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Which deep sump do you have, 1/2 qt or 2 qt?
#19
Nordschleife Master
yea but with a deep sump if u put it on the track. The exta oil takes car of the oil starvation issue with keeping it out of the aos.
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#21
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I'll see if I can dig up the Factory info on identifying the longer dipstick changes ect...
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#22
Drifting
posting about my Boxster here because this forum gets a lot more traffic than the Boxster forum...
was on the track with my 99 Boxster yesterday; base engine has 125k miles; no mods except exhaust, deep sump with baffles, and underdrive pulley. Mobil1 10W40 oil, running about 1-2 lines below max on the dash gauge. OEM Porsche AOS done about 4k ago.
after a sweeping left hander, i saw a large billow of white smoke from rear of the car going down the straight. Lasted 1-2 seconds. No CEL, and never happened again the rest of the day.
any thoughts? did I just blow a little extra oil through the intake?
was on the track with my 99 Boxster yesterday; base engine has 125k miles; no mods except exhaust, deep sump with baffles, and underdrive pulley. Mobil1 10W40 oil, running about 1-2 lines below max on the dash gauge. OEM Porsche AOS done about 4k ago.
after a sweeping left hander, i saw a large billow of white smoke from rear of the car going down the straight. Lasted 1-2 seconds. No CEL, and never happened again the rest of the day.
any thoughts? did I just blow a little extra oil through the intake?
May be the start of AOS failure, but not necessarily. Are you running a full oil level? (as measured on the dipstick). It should be about halfway between the low mark and the full mark. Were you getting any puff of smoke upon start-up prior to a track session? Do you shut the car off immediately after coming in from the track? If either of those last two, let it idle for a minute or two when you come in off the track before shutting off. Otherwise, get the AOS tested.
#23
Burning Brakes
God does this sound familiar. I have one AX and three HPDE events under my belt withing the last 6 months. My car has the 2 quart deep sump and i run Joe Gibbs oil. I have had a smoke show one time every event. Every time is scares the crap out of me. I make sure i have my oil set just above the 1/2 point on the dipstick. Never have i had a performance issue or engine light. My AOS is original so i hope thats my issue. Every time i take the car out to the track i feel like its going to blow up after reading all the threads on this forum. Sometimes i wish i never found Rennlist so i could just enjoy the car. Although it prob would be a good idea to swap my AOS before i do blow it up.
i think the more important question is........where in the heck did you find an open track event during this pandemic?!
i think the more important question is........where in the heck did you find an open track event during this pandemic?!
#24
Drifting
God does this sound familiar. I have one AX and three HPDE events under my belt withing the last 6 months. My car has the 2 quart deep sump and i run Joe Gibbs oil. I have had a smoke show one time every event. Every time is scares the crap out of me. I make sure i have my oil set just above the 1/2 point on the dipstick. Never have i had a performance issue or engine light. My AOS is original so i hope thats my issue. Every time i take the car out to the track i feel like its going to blow up after reading all the threads on this forum. Sometimes i wish i never found Rennlist so i could just enjoy the car. Although it prob would be a good idea to swap my AOS before i do blow it up.
i think the more important question is........where in the heck did you find an open track event during this pandemic?!
i think the more important question is........where in the heck did you find an open track event during this pandemic?!
Another option would be to get a car more suitable to track use than the 996. Like a Spec Miata.
#25
Nordschleife Master
You know it takes 3 minutes for a mechanic to test the aos, ignourance is not blis on this one. Even if u wanted to do it yourself its less then a $50 tool investment.
#26
Rennlist Member
I always chalked it up to oil expansion. I know when I set mine at about half bars cold, at the track, between runs its up over the full mark. As I remember, low mark to full mark is approximately 1.25L, so half way between would be about .6L, which could be accounted for in expansion considering 9L of total volume.
#27
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Oh, and I check my AOS with a slack tube manometer several times a year and all working good. I never get smoke on track, but will get a puff on startup between sessions before I started running the oil level at mid-point.
#28
Burning Brakes
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#29
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I'm using the 2 litre (roughly 2 qt). The OP has a Boxster as I do. The 2 litre is the best option for this car as it is really not too low to cause any problems. Using this and running a bar or two below full should solve your problems. Anecdote: Last year, after installing a rebuilt engine in my 986, I had a smoke bomb so big that they red flagged the track (they thought that I was on fire!). The ambulance guys came out waving their fire extinguishers and I had to calm them saying, no no, there's no fire! I realized that my oil level had risen to over full with the expansion of the oil due to heat (I know, I know). I dropped the level about half a litre and it never happened again.
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Ratchet1025 (04-20-2020)
#30
This was exactly my earlier point. How can a layman like me know what the right thing to do when the experts I respect don't even agree on where the oil level should be. Like I always say, these engines have a bit of black magic going on. Now I have a 3.8 with deepsump, but I am just resigning to the fact that at some point I will need to put in another engine because no one really knows how to make these damn things bullet proof except maybe Flat6.