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They have held up well.
I'm very happy with them.
I currently have about 23,000 miles on them.
At my current usage it would take me a looong time to accumulate that mileage. Glad to hear
Originally Posted by JohnCA58
I did get the adjustable dampeners for the rears on mine, I got the extenders for adjustments for my Cabriolet rear, they were not long enough,also got the radial bearings for top hats on front, great product.
Nice nice
Thanks for the feedback guys. Seems like the 441+ are the way to go
I've got about 15k miles/ 24k km on mine now. Opted for 441+ w/ Swift springs (7/12) on my car - for Ontario (Canada) it seems bit too stiff to be honest , feel bit too oversprung.... Amazing on smooth pavement but very harsh on crappy uneven roads!
wish I went bit down to something like 6/10 - which would be similar to GT3 cars.
I've got about 15k miles/ 24k km on mine now. Opted for 441+ w/ Swift springs (7/12) on my car - for Ontario (Canada) it seems bit too stiff to be honest , feel bit too oversprung.... Amazing on smooth pavement but very harsh on crappy uneven roads!
wish I went bit down to something like 6/10 - which would be similar to GT3 cars.
What do you have the rebound set to?
I found that if it's too soft, you'll feel more crappy pavement than set in the middle.
My definition of crappy may not equal yours since we don't have snow or ice down here in Houston.
My friend's 996.1 cabriolet has the softest, smoothest ride I've felt.
I believe he has the base factory suspension and it's in great condition.
But I prefer a tunable stiffer ride that can go even stiffer when I want to hit the twisties.
I normally use 17/20 for daily driving(speed bumps and rougher roads) and 23/25(or higher) for twisty roads.
I was talking to the guys at Feal and they mentioned that the highest the 441+ will go is 1" lower than stock. That said at that height there is a lot of preload on the spring and at the top of the shock travel not allowing alot of droop. How do you guys have the car setup? What is an average middle of the road lowering amount and how is the ride quality? The roads around here are absolutely abysmal and my goal is to lower the car a bit and potentially improve ride and handling with a proper alignment and damper setup.
I don't believe mine are 1" lower than stock.
Mine are set to the highest setting.
Here’s my heights(measured center of hub at the fender) with 225/30R18 & 285/35R18:
Front Rear
Last edited by TexSquirrel; 07-14-2022 at 01:48 PM.
As I understand it (I'm not a coilover expert) the coilovers allow for proper preload and adjustable height.
The height adjustment does not change the coil preload.
Last edited by TexSquirrel; 07-14-2022 at 02:09 PM.
What do you have the rebound set to?
I found that if it's too soft, you'll feel more crappy pavement than set in the middle.
My definition of crappy may not equal yours since we don't have snow or ice down here in Houston.
My friend's 996.1 cabriolet has the softest, smoothest ride I've felt.
I believe he has the base factory suspension and it's in great condition.
But I prefer a tunable stiffer ride that can go even stiffer when I want to hit the twisties.
I normally use 17/20 for daily driving(speed bumps and rougher roads) and 23/25(or higher) for twisty roads.
Thanks - I believe when I went to the lower setting I notice some improvement in one aspect but the oversprung feeling was added.
The current setting is from what I recall around 14/16, I've tried 22/24 prior, and it was a bit too stiff and very harsh and extremely responsive that tires skipped on the harsh pavement.
I need to play a bit more, but rear access blows and requires me to remove the Bose speakers/system, hindering the process.
Additionally, the single drive gives such limited feedback, and roads around the house are decent, but once I roll into downtown Toronto which is full of streetcar tracks and various pavement mixes it really impacts the drive.
As I understand it (I'm not a coilover expert) the coilovers allow for proper preload and adjustable height. The height adjustment does not change the coil preload.
Yes, preload can be adjusted separately from the height. Feals recommends a certain amount (can't recall)
Interesting. Very interesting as your car looks a little higher than mine in the rear and I'm completely stock. According to what Feal told me yesterday MINIMUM drop is 1" and they cannot attain stock ride height.
my car now
but rear access blows and requires me to remove the Bose speakers/system, hindering the process.
I understand the access problem.
Mine had the Bose subwoofer until recently.
I had hoped the extended adjusters would help, but they were too inflexible.
Now that my subwoofer is removed, I can't find the extended adjusters to see of they would even help any without the subwoofer.
I don't think they will help any.
They definitely won't fit in front.
Originally Posted by Sam-Son
Interesting. Very interesting as your car looks a little higher than mine in the rear and I'm completely stock. According to what Feal told me yesterday MINIMUM drop is 1" and they cannot attain stock ride height.
my car now
this is what I want to achieve
Feal told me the same about not being close to stock height.
I asked if they could be stock height because at the time my driveway was too steep for stock height, but I was in the early stages of putting in a new driveway that would eliminate the steep incline.
They suggested I wait until after I put in my driveway to purchase them, which I did.
I decided I wanted them as high as possible still since I was commuting to a parking lot with lots of steep speed bumps.
Now that I don't have that commute, I've considered lowering my 996, but decided to wait until after it returns from F6I since I figured it would be safer loading and unloading at stock height.
It's hard to get a suspension to respond to high speed movement like sharp edged joints or holes and have enough low speed damping. This has always been the challenge in the dirt bike world too. I think that's what Ohlins was addressing with their "DFV tech" I don't know if Feal has any kind of blowoff valve for high shaft speed hits.
I understand the access problem.
Mine had the Bose subwoofer until recently.
I had hoped the extended adjusters would help, but they were too inflexible.
Now that my subwoofer is removed, I can't find the extended adjusters to see of they would even help any without the subwoofer.
I don't think they will help any.
They definitely won't fit in front.
Feal told me the same about not being close to stock height.
I asked if they could be stock height because at the time my driveway was too steep for stock height, but I was in the early stages of putting in a new driveway that would eliminate the steep incline.
They suggested I wait until after I put in my driveway to purchase them, which I did.
I decided I wanted them as high as possible still since I was commuting to a parking lot with lots of steep speed bumps.
Now that I don't have that commute, I've considered lowering my 996, but decided to wait until after it returns from F6I since I figured it would be safer loading and unloading at stock height.
And the ride quality is fine at that height?
Originally Posted by JohnCA58
I am more than 1 inch drop on both cars with Feal set-up
I am much more than 1” lower than stock. Factory alignment specs, 15mm spacers at all four corners. Stiffness at 28/30 clicks front 27/30 clicks rear. No rubbing, not harsh, and handles very well. Only real unsettling is over something rough like train tracks, and even still it’s acceptable. These are Feal 441 base model with upgraded radial bearings, but not the Swift springs.
07-13-2022, 03:29 PM
