Roll Bar in a 996 Cabriolet?
12-13-2018, 10:00 AM
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Roll Bar in a 996 Cabriolet?
I currently have a 99' C2, I use it mostly for cruising/street use. I would like to do some days at the Glen or Pocono. I'm wondering if anyone has ever had a bar they can mount/dismount quickly. Not really looking to tour wine country with a gaudy roll bar sticking out the top. Any info would be super appreciated.
12-13-2018, 10:24 AM
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But why do you need a roll bar for your roll bar?
12-13-2018, 01:10 PM
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I guess you could manually deploy your automatic roll bars if you were really worried (or aggressively driving?)
I think there are instructions somewhere online for the procedure, but I think I read it's a somewhat violent deployment. Keep your face out of the way.
I think there are instructions somewhere online for the procedure, but I think I read it's a somewhat violent deployment. Keep your face out of the way.
12-13-2018, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregcoleman81
I've been told I need a real Roll Bar to be on the track. Have you had other experiences?
Perhaps someone is telling you that you need hand & arm restraints if the top is open?
12-13-2018, 02:12 PM
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I find myself in a similar situation with my '04 C4S Cab.
Want to do some DE next year, and the local track websites have stated anything from "Cabs must have 4pt roll bars, as integrated roll/hoops or bolt-on hardtops are not allowed," to "Integrated (Factory) roll bar protection is allowed, as long as you can pass the broomstick test," to "Integrated roll bar protection is allowed ONLY if it is directly behind the driver's seat (such as Boxster). Initial research for relatively "easy in, easy out" roll bars shows a decent range of options - and pricing.
I'm really just looking at becoming a better driver of my own car, and not looking to race. Additionally, because I do actually use the rear seats on a regular basis during the summer (have two kids that still fit back there), the idea of having to constantly install/uninstall a roll bar is less than appealing.
Want to do some DE next year, and the local track websites have stated anything from "Cabs must have 4pt roll bars, as integrated roll/hoops or bolt-on hardtops are not allowed," to "Integrated (Factory) roll bar protection is allowed, as long as you can pass the broomstick test," to "Integrated roll bar protection is allowed ONLY if it is directly behind the driver's seat (such as Boxster). Initial research for relatively "easy in, easy out" roll bars shows a decent range of options - and pricing.
I'm really just looking at becoming a better driver of my own car, and not looking to race. Additionally, because I do actually use the rear seats on a regular basis during the summer (have two kids that still fit back there), the idea of having to constantly install/uninstall a roll bar is less than appealing.
12-13-2018, 02:25 PM
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I find myself in a similar situation with my '04 C4S Cab.
Want to do some DE next year, and the local track websites have stated anything from "Cabs must have 4pt roll bars, as integrated roll/hoops or bolt-on hardtops are not allowed," to "Integrated (Factory) roll bar protection is allowed, as long as you can pass the broomstick test," to "Integrated roll bar protection is allowed ONLY if it is directly behind the driver's seat (such as Boxster). Initial research for relatively "easy in, easy out" roll bars shows a decent range of options - and pricing.
I'm really just looking at becoming a better driver of my own car, and not looking to race. Additionally, because I do actually use the rear seats on a regular basis during the summer (have two kids that still fit back there), the idea of having to constantly install/uninstall a roll bar is less than appealing.
Want to do some DE next year, and the local track websites have stated anything from "Cabs must have 4pt roll bars, as integrated roll/hoops or bolt-on hardtops are not allowed," to "Integrated (Factory) roll bar protection is allowed, as long as you can pass the broomstick test," to "Integrated roll bar protection is allowed ONLY if it is directly behind the driver's seat (such as Boxster). Initial research for relatively "easy in, easy out" roll bars shows a decent range of options - and pricing.
I'm really just looking at becoming a better driver of my own car, and not looking to race. Additionally, because I do actually use the rear seats on a regular basis during the summer (have two kids that still fit back there), the idea of having to constantly install/uninstall a roll bar is less than appealing.
https://www.agency-power.com/shop/ra...v=7516fd43adaa
Not sure if this will fit or not, but may be an option.
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12-13-2018, 02:59 PM
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Most places will say this stuff is needed, but not all will always check and bring a broom out. I would contact the folks running the specific event and ask the coordinators.
12-15-2018, 11:25 AM
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You are correct, it is not a PCA requirement, but the PCA requirements are the minimum requirements. Each region can adjust rules.
For me, it came down to the fact that there is no way to do the broomstick test with the pop-ups. We also have a track NJMP that will not allow any convertibles without fixed roll bars.
After doing lots of research, there is not an easily removed solution for the vert. Anything would require drilling into the car. Even the bolt in bars for the coupes are not what I would consider easily removed (although they do not require any drilling).
12-19-2018, 10:52 AM
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Depends on the region. I am the safety chair for our region (we run The Glen and Pocono, and other tracks). We allow a cab with the pop-up roll bar for our intro course, but after that you need to have a bar.
You are correct, it is not a PCA requirement, but the PCA requirements are the minimum requirements. Each region can adjust rules.
For me, it came down to the fact that there is no way to do the broomstick test with the pop-ups. We also have a track NJMP that will not allow any convertibles without fixed roll bars.
After doing lots of research, there is not an easily removed solution for the vert. Anything would require drilling into the car. Even the bolt in bars for the coupes are not what I would consider easily removed (although they do not require any drilling).
You are correct, it is not a PCA requirement, but the PCA requirements are the minimum requirements. Each region can adjust rules.
For me, it came down to the fact that there is no way to do the broomstick test with the pop-ups. We also have a track NJMP that will not allow any convertibles without fixed roll bars.
After doing lots of research, there is not an easily removed solution for the vert. Anything would require drilling into the car. Even the bolt in bars for the coupes are not what I would consider easily removed (although they do not require any drilling).
12-19-2018, 06:21 PM
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I would also encourage exploration outside of PCA. I’ve done, for example, LAPS and had good experiences. I have a friend who has done BMW groups. You’ll find a lot of Porsche cars in these non-Porsche-specific groups, too, so I wouldn’t limit to just PCA. Each company has slightly different requirements, and not all the same at the same tracks.
12-20-2018, 12:55 PM
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12-20-2018, 02:07 PM
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Ditto on the Autocross. Also Their are some private race tracks around like here in Syracuse, NY that they only want the roof up... (Not flat like a normal autoX).
