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Old 01-05-2018, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
When you hear it, your motor is done...
So do a retro fit for 2k on a problem which will have a 1:150 chance of arising per annum;
Lets see, if you had 20 911's would you still pay $40,000 to have 20 IMS's done.
And do you personally know anyone it's happened to, I don't and I know quite a few 911 owners, aswell ha having a few of my own,
and the one I have now has a lot of performance upgrades (not bragging just have a lot more power than regular 997s) so extra stress on IMS
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Originally Posted by AWDGuy
Find a new dealer. If they are replacing only broken IMS bearings, they are putting more failure prone engines back into the market. If I was shopping for a car, I would actually ask for the dealers name so I could avoid any of their cars that they replaced an IMS on.
Porsche main dealer!!!

When I refer tio local Indi garage I ment mechanic and the others I spoke to were porsche main dealer and warranty companies.

I know lots of garages post photos of ( "look what will happen if you dont change it")
Old 01-05-2018, 06:39 PM
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An 8% chance of catastrophic failure on my new to me 2001 Carerra 4 was worth the 1750 cost for me. And had the RMS and Clutch done while tranny was out for another $550.
So 1750 for the Pro LN bearing vs an 8% chance of sending my purchase to the trash heap. Each person has to make that decision. Glad you are happy with your decision.
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Originally Posted by Russ21
So do a retro fit for 2k on a problem which will have a 1:150 chance of arising per annum;
Lets see, if you had 20 911's would you still pay $40,000 to have 20 IMS's done.
And do you personally know anyone it's happened to, I don't and I know quite a few 911 owners, aswell ha having a few of my own,
and the one I have now has a lot of performance upgrades (not bragging just have a lot more power than regular 997s) so extra stress on IMS
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Completely your choice, to me it's a cheap insurance policy. You can choose not to take out that policy.
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Originally Posted by AWDGuy
Find a new dealer. If they are replacing only broken IMS bearings, they are putting more failure prone engines back into the market. If I was shopping for a car, I would actually ask for the dealers name so I could avoid any of their cars that they replaced an IMS on.
Ahhh! think we miss understood each other,
my local indi has never changed a broken ims becaues he's never had a car in with a broken ims, he's not selling cars with broken ims :-)
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Originally Posted by todcp
An 8% chance of catastrophic failure on my new to me 2001 Carerra 4 was worth the 1750 cost for me. And had the RMS and Clutch done while tranny was out for another $550.
So 1750 for the Pro LN bearing vs an 8% chance of sending my purchase to the trash heap. Each person has to make that decision. Glad you are happy with your decision.
That's 8% on the life of the car not pa. put it in perspective,

So I hope you will have at least 20 911's in your life thats $40,000 on imsb's but realisticly only one will fail, $2k to repair or maybe $6-8k if your unlucky either way I saved you over $30k
and you may think like me i'll only ever buy 1 911, 10 months later I was on my second one.
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How do you figure $6-8K to fix a motor that's had an IMSB fail?
Maybe you should update your research from someone that specializes in the M96 and its IMSB failures. A lot of collateral damage to the motor when it lets loose.https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post14712526
Start here...
Old 01-05-2018, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
How do you figure $6-8K to fix a motor that's had an IMSB fail?
2k if it's just Ims and a some exta in the unlikely event it's done more damage.
keep in mind it's unlikely to go in the first place.
unless you own a garage then you will tell me it will definitely go next time I strt her up
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Originally Posted by dan_189
Completely your choice, to me it's a cheap insurance policy. You can choose not to take out that policy.
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However if mine does go I will get a complete engine upgrade
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
When you hear it, your motor is done...
Kind of like the bullet that you don't hear is the one that gets you?

Given my luck, I plan to get the LN Solution done on my low-risk, low-percentage of failure, tiptronic 1999 996. It's the same principle that keeps me off roller coasters - I know that if I get on, the one in a million failure will happen.
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
How do you figure $6-8K to fix a motor that's had an IMSB fail?
Maybe you should update your research from someone that specializes in the M96 and its IMSB failures. A lot of collateral damage to the motor when it lets loose.https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post14712526
Start here...
Yep I did that 'Hartech' specialize in this, their prices are online with full brakdown of work to be done and the upgrades they can do.
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
How do you figure $6-8K to fix a motor that's had an IMSB fail?
Maybe you should update your research from someone that specializes in the M96 and its IMSB failures. A lot of collateral damage to the motor when it lets loose.https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post14712526
Start here...
Let's be honest how pi##ed off would you be if you changed your imsb only to have a crank bearing or cylinder linning crack, all of these are possible and comparatively common but you waisted your money on an imsb, more to the point how pi##ed off will your partner be ;-)
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Originally Posted by titan7
Looking at picking up a 996, read that there is a IMS retro fit that will solve the grenade potential on the motor? They are just priced so low I figure just add $1500-$2k for the ims change. Correct?
No, not correct. There are many more ways your engine could grenade.
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Originally Posted by Russ21
Let's be honest how pi##ed off would you be if you changed your imsb only to have a crank bearing or cylinder linning crack, all of these are possible and comparatively common but you waisted your money on an imsb, more to the point how pi##ed off will your partner be ;-)
Apples and oranges...
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I only know of one person that changes their IMSB after it started failing. That was 4 years ago and they haven't had any other issues with the engine. It's anecdotal but somewhat interesting none the less.


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