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Also with the new non rusting bolts to counter the added spacer weight
Saved the box expecting one day to ship to a member in need.
That the case until a sobering conversation with a salesman
after a Panamera test drive.
Their trade in value offer for the car they sold me 9000$ less than
the purchase price two years and 12 thousand kms later.
"As you please" his response when I told him I'd keep all the
accessories and bits.
Good fortune 5CHN3LL that your stud shear wasn't tragic.
Time to buy a handful of lottery tickets.
Good fortune 5CHN3LL that your stud shear wasn't tragic.
Time to buy a handful of lottery tickets.
I couldn't agree more. When I look back at the various things I've done with the 996 since installing those studs, there are very few I think, "well, I could have done THAT on three wheels."
The guys at Black Forest here in San Diego continue to impress me. On my way to run another errand, I stopped by Black Forest to ask Jeff if I could borrow a wheel's worth of lug bolts for a few days so I could get the car off the jack stands and in the garage. He was even more freaked out than I was when i showed him the photos of the broken studs, and he sent me on my way with a bag of lug bolts to use until I figure out which direction I'm going with the 996 (sourcing alternate studs or running screaming back to the safety of bolts).
TonyTwoBags, thanks again for the offer of the set of bolts. I owe you one.
Just recently purchased a set of new GT3 +5mm wheel bolts, can't really see the advantage in studs. That being said I don't remove my wheels all that often.
Interesting to see people using bolts without a floating collar.
Dont forget the castrol Optimoly TA paste! Which is now called Castrol molub-alloy TA.
Yet another email from the vendor, this time stating that neither they nor the manufacturer have ever seen a stud back out. Apparently, the fact that the studs are actually BROKEN continues to elude these f*******s.
I have gone out of my way to anonymize my dealings with them - it pisses me off when people don't give a vendor an opportunity to make something right. I don't want anything other than for them to look at the damn parts and say "nope, you're the idiot...everyone else will be fine" - but this seems to be asking too much.
If you are running aftermarket studs with your 996 and this thread concerns you, please PM me and I will share the details of the studs I was using (brand, length, spacers, and other details)...
NONE OF THE STUDS BACKED OUT OF THE HUBS.
I know the caps seem extreme, but I've restated this two or three times now.
The studs did not back out.
They FAILED in an incredibly alarming way, and frankly I'm getting a little irritated that I have to keep explaining this.
What did happen, though: Because of an as-yet-undiagnosed equipment failure, 60% of the available clamping force holding my rear wheel onto its hub disappeared; it was lost unexpectedly while I was driving the car.
Had I not felt and heard the studs break WHILE I WAS DRIVING the car, any jolt or even an abrupt corner could have resulted in losing the rear driver-side wheel.
In a car with well over 60% of the weight on the rear wheels, losing a wheel with the car in motion could have been very serious. Had it happened at speed on the highway, the outcome could have been deadly.
Had I not removed all 10 rear studs with two different stud extractors (because I'm probably overreacting about not wanting to die in a fire due to equipment failure), all ten of them would be very securely installed in the rear hubs on my 911. And three of them would also be significantly shorter than they're supposed to be. Because they BROKE OFF.
The lack of any sort of "holy crap, glad you didn't die...sorry the product you bought from us failed in a way that could potentially have ended your life" is disheartening.
Update: After a phenomenal phone call from a Pelican VP (this dude should teach seminars on how to un-f**k customer relationships), it appears that the gentleman with whom I was corresponding earlier (I had written "toolbag," but that's probably inflammatory) was not necessarily treating the situation with the degree of care Pelican might have otherwise preferred.
There are still a lot of questions up in the air. Whatever the cause, assuming it's determined and shared with me - I'll pass it along. At least the vendor appears to be on-board and - as far as I can detect with my finely calibrated BS detector - acting in good faith.
MM, thanks for noticing this thread and putting 2 and 2 together.
08-04-2017, 11:21 PM
