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Old 09-26-2003, 01:53 AM
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I like the color combo, and if it was in great condition and one could trust the mods...

any thoughts?

wonder what the reserve price is.
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oops... forgot the ebay link on the '97 arena red turbo

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2434121486
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is this car too modified to get used?
If you ignore the embelished descriptions.....
it has:
- coilovers
- modified ECU and boost controller
- 5 bar FPR
- mufflers (?)
- RSCS clutch and flywheel (?)
- Pod filter
- Techart steering wheel.

Definitely NOT too modified to use as a daily driver.
Most of us would consider these the bare essentials

The "Mass Flow Sensor W/Reistor Pack Conversion" &
"Boost Control Unit-Profec-B" are outside the established normal modification path.
I would be asking for more details on these items.
Also, enquire as to what brand of computer reflash, or who did the reflash tuning.

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Q is right on with his input. They do not mention if the turbochargers are stock K16's or others. 500hp has to be done right or it could be a time bomb. Beautiful looking car with a reasonable price if the story is right.
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The ECU sounds like the Protomotive setup. Todd has a like resistor pack that gets added to the MAF to cut the signal down a touch to the ECU, plus the Greddy Profec unit is the one that he sells (the B model is the older one and the E-01 is the newest). There is also Prototech(?) in NJ which is a distributor for Protomotive.
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Originally posted by viperbob
The ECU sounds like the Protomotive setup. Todd has a like resistor pack that gets added to the MAF to cut the signal down a touch to the ECU

aaaaah, It all makes sense now.
When I had the Xede programmable management fitted to my car, they modified the Xede to accept up to 12v input from the MAF.
I assumed the factory computer reflashed could read the 5v +
.....obviously not.
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I was worried about the "time bomb" aspect. I am close to getting a stock turbo, but really like arena red, but nervous about the mods not being done right.
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put the car on a dyno 2wd or 4wd.
have them do a power run.

They can log the air / fuel ratio.
This will give you an indication as to whether it is a ticking bomb or not.
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here is my dyno sheet showing the stock setup
the a/f ratio has been plotted on the sheet as well. [ dotted lines ]


You will notice Porsche run the 993 very rich at high RPM [read right hand scale] 10.5:1
It steals some HP, but keeps the valves wet & cool.
Dodgy tuners lean them out to gain a few extra HP easily.
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200 kW rear wheel?
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Yes, ignore the HP numbers...
Australian DYNO DYNAMICS dynos read very low when compared to DYNO JET dynos.
25- 30% drivetrain loss is normal for this brand of dyno.
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Default anyone near it or know promotive to check it out?

If it was nice, and the price decent, I would be very interested.
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only one way to find out....



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