Upgrading suspension
06-07-2012, 02:59 PM
#31
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I have had both, but on different 993s. I had the HDs with MO30 on a Targa and a Cab. Nice ride on both.
PSS10 in the RUF. Also very good. But the key difference is that I can adjust it to my liking for various situations. I don't adjust it much, but will sometimes stiffen it for hard driving.
PSS10 allow for adjustment and refinement, HDs don't. Simple as that. And with a turbo car, you may want the ability to make it stiffer for hard driving.
With that in mind, and the high cost that Tony already has in the car, I would go PSS10.
PSS10 in the RUF. Also very good. But the key difference is that I can adjust it to my liking for various situations. I don't adjust it much, but will sometimes stiffen it for hard driving.
PSS10 allow for adjustment and refinement, HDs don't. Simple as that. And with a turbo car, you may want the ability to make it stiffer for hard driving.
With that in mind, and the high cost that Tony already has in the car, I would go PSS10.
Forum info seems to be staggered some say full stiff front/rear (on the track), other say rear softer than front and vice versa.
Currently running 7 (front) / 5 (rear) and seems good overall.
06-07-2012, 03:36 PM
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Following this thread with great interest! Anyone have an experience with the H&R PCS Coil-overs? Seems like they have the potential to be a blend in price, comfort and adjust-ability between shock-n-springs and PSS10s.
06-07-2012, 03:44 PM
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Slightly off topic, curious what would be your settings for hard driving? I'm thinking PSS10s really only offer soft, medium & hard. The actual differences between digits is unlikely noticeable.
Forum info seems to be staggered some say full stiff front/rear (on the track), other say rear softer than front and vice versa.
Currently running 7 (front) / 5 (rear) and seems good overall.
Forum info seems to be staggered some say full stiff front/rear (on the track), other say rear softer than front and vice versa.
Currently running 7 (front) / 5 (rear) and seems good overall.
06-08-2012, 11:25 AM
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I have PSS9 system on the turbo and HD's on my RS clone. The PSS9 is clearly the better setup. I would spend the extra $1000.00 and get a new PSS10. No question. I am going to buy PSS10 for the RS clone in the next few months. My HD's have corroded and are no longer adjustable.Mechanic says it would cost about as much time in labor to break the HD's free, to adjust, as to just replace the HD's with new.
06-20-2012, 01:04 PM
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This is likely because the TT is 2x the cost of the NA 993's -> so the owners tend to be willing to spend more money when its time to replace/upgrade components, and they like to get the "best" for their cars. I know this is a general statement and is not true for all owners, but I bet it does for the majority... the shocks in the PSS10 class (and a few others) are considered top notch.
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Mike
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Mike
06-20-2012, 02:08 PM
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Somehow I find it hard to believe it's mostly a cost thing.
There are a lot of expensive 993s out there, not being turbo's, and owners investing some serious dollars/euros in them.
The FSDs are supposed to be a good upgrade from the stock Monroe's. So they don't aim to compete with or be in the same (price)class as the PSSx. Just different purposes shocks.
There are a lot of expensive 993s out there, not being turbo's, and owners investing some serious dollars/euros in them.
The FSDs are supposed to be a good upgrade from the stock Monroe's. So they don't aim to compete with or be in the same (price)class as the PSSx. Just different purposes shocks.
06-20-2012, 02:28 PM
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Somehow I find it hard to believe it's mostly a cost thing.
There are a lot of expensive 993s out there, not being turbo's, and owners investing some serious dollars/euros in them.
The FSDs are supposed to be a good upgrade from the stock Monroe's. So they don't aim to compete with or be in the same (price)class as the PSSx. Just different purposes shocks.
There are a lot of expensive 993s out there, not being turbo's, and owners investing some serious dollars/euros in them.
The FSDs are supposed to be a good upgrade from the stock Monroe's. So they don't aim to compete with or be in the same (price)class as the PSSx. Just different purposes shocks.
If I have a $26,000 993, the $2700 for the PSS-10 is over 10% - if I have a $70,000 turbo, its only 4%.
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Mike
06-20-2012, 02:40 PM
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I hear what your saying Mike. And I am sure there is some truth in it.
But isn't it also, and maybe more so, a matter of what your aim is with the car/suspension. For example more sport/track driven or more street/comfort.
A lot of turbo drivers will not get the full benefit of the PSS10 adjustable coilover and maybe they need something closer to the stock suspension.
Aren't the FSDs more recently available than the bilsteins for our cars?
If I would have been convinced PSS10 are the way to go than I would not hesitate one bit. But if, for my driving (sport street, no lowering), some other shocks suffice and make a nice upgrade for the stock ones ... Choices choices
But isn't it also, and maybe more so, a matter of what your aim is with the car/suspension. For example more sport/track driven or more street/comfort.
A lot of turbo drivers will not get the full benefit of the PSS10 adjustable coilover and maybe they need something closer to the stock suspension.
Aren't the FSDs more recently available than the bilsteins for our cars?
If I would have been convinced PSS10 are the way to go than I would not hesitate one bit. But if, for my driving (sport street, no lowering), some other shocks suffice and make a nice upgrade for the stock ones ... Choices choices
