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Old 01-17-2010, 11:14 AM
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Default My stupid question of the week : Can the intercoolers be relocated?

Ok,

this is probably the dumbest post I have ever made (there will be more... I can guarantee !)....

But,

can a 993 Turbo be modified to remove the rear spoiler and just end up with the stock 993 rear ?

what would it take? where could parts be relocated ?
what else would be involved ?

how stupid of an idea is this ? (besides the obvious purist issue...which I can overcome with Jack Daniels)

lol...

START THE ROCK THROWING !
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Anything is possible with enough money.

With muffler bypasses, you could do a ruf style rear bumper with the cutouts and do two sidemounts for each turbo like the newer cars.

You'd really need to squeeze the intake tube from the throttle body down to the wells somehow, but its doable.

What you'd do with the airbox, I don't know.

Personally, I love the whale tail.
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If I remember correctly a member of the Porsche family had this done to his 993 to get rid of the rear spoiler.
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Don't we need the rear tail/spoiler for proper downforce?
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Poorboy did a cool job with his https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=40678
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Originally Posted by No HTwo O
Don't we need the rear tail/spoiler for proper downforce?
Why would a turbo need different downforce than an NA car?

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I have a single turbo car that I am starting to collect parts for. One of the goals is to run it without a whale tail. I prefer the flat rear deck look. Hopefully I can have a custom I/C built...
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Very interesting.... some people dont like the whale tale - I do think it is very imposing (ie cool)... but I prefer more of a sleeper look... and I think the lines of the sloping 911 back are gorgeous unmarred.

Any other suggestions ? insights?
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Originally Posted by Autobahn
If I remember correctly a member of the Porsche family had this done to his 993 to get rid of the rear spoiler.

Do you have any info or know where to go about getting info on this ?
(I bet if Curvelover was into whale-tail-less 993 turbos...we'd have an answer in 3.9 seconds !
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Originally Posted by JBL930
An outstanding example ... with side mounted intercoolers ...

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Originally Posted by Autobahn
If I remember correctly a member of the Porsche family had this done to his 993 to get rid of the rear spoiler.
slight correction...Princeton did not "...have this done..."...he did it himself! an amazing self-fab project considering he is not a professional! And it was not to get rid of the spoiler...the car was a NA 993 to begin with and he fabbed and engineered the turbo system and body mods.
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Originally Posted by FlatSix911
An outstanding example ... with side mounted intercoolers ...

yes...and if we were to rank the Top 10 DIY projects of all time, Princeton's project would have to be #1
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Originally Posted by alpinadvl
Ok,

this is probably the dumbest post I have ever made (there will be more... I can guarantee !)....

But,

can a 993 Turbo be modified to remove the rear spoiler and just end up with the stock 993 rear ?

what would it take? where could parts be relocated ?
what else would be involved ?

how stupid of an idea is this ? (besides the obvious purist issue...which I can overcome with Jack Daniels)

lol...

START THE ROCK THROWING !
Gemballa use to offer an intercooled biturbo conversion for NA cars that did not require a tail. The details are in their older catalog and Curvelover had posted some pics/details on another thread IIRC. The Ruf CTR is also another example of an intecooled non-tailed turbo, but it had a sick body
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Originally Posted by alpinadvl
Do you have any info or know where to go about getting info on this ?
(I bet if Curvelover was into whale-tail-less 993 turbos...we'd have an answer in 3.9 seconds !
I'll try to find the information. It might have been in Adrian's book. I think the conversion was done by Ruf.
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SO...... possible ?

what I am wondering if one could retain a stock C4S look and still have the turbo plumbing all repositioned (I know...not a lot of room to play).

Can anyone (who has posted..or viewed this thread) - comment to that effect?


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