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Old 01-18-2006, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE=themarsman]My exact statement was:

I own a 730hp 993TT and I am not sure that it would keep up with the CGT from 0-160mph.

I have never raced the two so it would be impossible for me to know which would be faster 0-160mph. I have the stock drivetrain in my 993 with an upgraded clutch so I haven't pushed the car nearly as hard off the line as I have my CGT. My statement was based on the fact that I think the two would be very close in a straight line to 160mph, but until I can run some timing test I won't know for sure.

Right now the 993 is torn apart and the turbo and wastegates are being rebuilt and I am putting a new computer system on the car once this is all done I will have the car dynoed in the spring and might take it to the drag strip.

I am also going to have both cars weighed and will let you know the difference in weight, I believe the CGT is lighter but will provide exact numbers later.[/QUOTE]

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Perhaps it is the usual 700+hp from the 996 tt forum and pushing it up to 160mph it will be more like 450 hp perhaps because of the stock intercooler.

I think it is a very cool combination of cars though.
He can choose between big torque and amazing sound.
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Originally Posted by red993tt
I find his statement hard to believe.
Hence why I challenged it originally - As I said, it looks to me that the guy made the statement as a flippant remark. He owns a CGT and naturally would not put his 993tt in the same league.
It seems to me he is not of the "anorak" variety which we get on here and didn't think too much before he made his statement. Now the statement has been made, unless rescinded, the sharks can have a frenzy with it

If there is to be a debate about his 730hp 993tt, it should be here - if he will come over and play however I suspect he doesn't care that much whether its bling hp or real hp
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hmm
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What would be interesting is to hear what he has done with the car. Before that, it's very hard to determine what it can do. If I recall did he keep AWD with 730hp?!!
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i'd like to c the mods
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Leonsamonas

Welcome to Rennlist. Wouldn't like to hijack such a promising thread, but care to share more about your car? It is not everyday that we have here a modified and "carbon fibered" R Turbo.. Any 60-130mph in the horizon? Please check 60-130mph thread by Bill s. here.
Old 01-18-2006, 11:25 AM
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This is a bit confusing but I believe I understand it now.
Marsman, who has a CGT and many other really nice Porsches like 94 Turbo "S"
993TT S, etc. somewhere along the line claimed he had a 730 HP 993tt??
There are a couple in the world at the level is my understanding and most
of them were built by Protomotive.
Let the games begin!!!
Marty k
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Originally Posted by leonsamonas
i'd like to c the mods
Yes, one wonders how you were restricted by Ruf to 558hp when 730 is obviously attainable

1313kg wow - is that measured or guesstimated, sounds very light. You were my inspiration for going carbon, but I only managed 1396kg. What am I missing or rather what should I be missing
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Jean,

not much to add really...just carbon doors/bonnet/mirrors/front and rear bumpers, ruf (aero-optimised) whale-tail derived rear spoiler, 18" ruf modulars with pirelli corsa rubber, full H&R suspension, GT3 Recaros, brakes upgraded for track ie.hoses/ducting/pads/fluid, stripped of all A/C parts, soundproofing and a few other creature comforts. Re-visited pfaffenhausen recently for an overhaul and decided to one better and change ruf k16 turbos to ruf tweaked k24's, intercooler, titanium rods, new ruf designed exhaust with 100 cells, a new ecu and their taller 6th gear.
424bhp/tonne and 388lbft/tonne

I've read bills thread, and will post some times when traction is less of an issue in a few months...uk not quite as dry as saudi this time of year..unfortunately

TB,
This was measured after recent mods at pfaffenhausen with half tank but no passanger
hope to c u, at next vmax perhaps?

best regards
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Leon
Do you have a carbon fiber picture of your car you can share?

You must have a very serious 60-130mph, are you still on 4WD with that weight?
Thanks for sharing.
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Jean,

yes I still have the 4wd, have tuned out understeer though with meticulous corner weight adjustments, stable as u like over 200mph but handles crisp with plenty of turn in bite.

it took a while to get it right..
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Originally Posted by Woodster
This is a bit confusing but I believe I understand it now.
Marsman, who has a CGT and many other really nice Porsches like 94 Turbo "S"
993TT S, etc. somewhere along the line claimed he had a 730 HP 993tt??
There are a couple in the world at the level is my understanding and most
of them were built by Protomotive.
Let the games begin!!!
Marty k

Marty
I don't doubt the man's wealth and taste for cars. But I do doubt his knowledge about his car, specifically his 730hp 993tt. As we all know here there are only very few 993tt that put out that kind of power exist. From his description I doubt if his 993tt is one of them.
If it does exist I doubt if it will have any problem keeping up with CGT given that it has over 100hp more then CGT and almost equal in weights. My2cents.
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Originally Posted by leonsamonas
Jean,

yes I still have the 4wd, have tuned out understeer though with meticulous corner weight adjustments, stable as u like over 200mph but handles crisp with plenty of turn in bite.

it took a while to get it right..

Impressive weight for a 4wd.
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Leon,

Can you share some pictures of your car? I think many of us would like to see it.


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