Again Drivelock and Immobolizer questions....
#1
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Again Drivelock and Immobolizer questions....
Hello Rennlist people and friends
I recently bought a 993 1996, rolling chassis with abou 50% av parts needed to make it run.
I got it with engine and ECU.
However I had to buy separate immobilizer and key fob.
Everything is now connected, and I got the "alarm" lights in the doors working and the locks i actuating but the engine wont turn over /crank.
I bypassed the relays to verify that the starter works, it does.
Also the Fuelpump relay, also works.
The alarm seems to work, horn sounds out loud.
Any ideas?
Do I need to pair the immobilizer with the ECU /motronic or am I missing something?
Happy easter
Mike
I recently bought a 993 1996, rolling chassis with abou 50% av parts needed to make it run.
I got it with engine and ECU.
However I had to buy separate immobilizer and key fob.
Everything is now connected, and I got the "alarm" lights in the doors working and the locks i actuating but the engine wont turn over /crank.
I bypassed the relays to verify that the starter works, it does.
Also the Fuelpump relay, also works.
The alarm seems to work, horn sounds out loud.
Any ideas?
Do I need to pair the immobilizer with the ECU /motronic or am I missing something?
Happy easter
Mike
#3
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lets try it out...
Did not know this, so when "armed" shoud there be a light in in the clock?
And then, when I unarm the car the light should go out?
Getting out after dinner!
mike
And then, when I unarm the car the light should go out?
Getting out after dinner!
mike
#5
If all is as should be as described above, then you need to program your remote to the immobilizer. How you will do this without the immobilizer code is beyond me; unless the origin of the immobilizer has the VIN to the car it came from, or the code/code card itself.
If the VIN of the origin car is available, a Porsche dealer can retrieve the code from their VIN database...Most dealers insist on proof of ownership of the VIN (reg or pink slip)
Maybe the dealer can hook their diagnostic software to the car or immobilizer and retrieve the code; otherwise I sense a conundrum!
If the VIN of the origin car is available, a Porsche dealer can retrieve the code from their VIN database...Most dealers insist on proof of ownership of the VIN (reg or pink slip)
Maybe the dealer can hook their diagnostic software to the car or immobilizer and retrieve the code; otherwise I sense a conundrum!
#6
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well...
...the immo light in the clock is a no show.
Changed the lamp and still nothing.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35016424/start.mp4
I also cleared the airbag faults so now the airbag light is turned off.
I'm trying to contact the seller of the immo box and se what he says.
Should I send my Motronic and get the Drivelock and immo removed, 595$?
Changed the lamp and still nothing.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35016424/start.mp4
I also cleared the airbag faults so now the airbag light is turned off.
I'm trying to contact the seller of the immo box and se what he says.
Should I send my Motronic and get the Drivelock and immo removed, 595$?
#7
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Are you sure that immobilizer was a working unit when you bought it? It's strange that the immo light in the clock is not coming on for the bulb test when the ignition is turned on.
IIRC, the immo on the '96 cannot be disabled in the ECU. Check with Steve Weiner at Rennsport who can provide the definite answer.
IIRC, the immo on the '96 cannot be disabled in the ECU. Check with Steve Weiner at Rennsport who can provide the definite answer.
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#8
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Yes that is strange....
my next quest is to see if I have the right Alarm module 928.618.260.00
Im thinking its for an older model, without immo, could that be the case?
my next quest is to see if I have the right Alarm module 928.618.260.00
Im thinking its for an older model, without immo, could that be the case?
#10
...the immo light in the clock is a no show.
Changed the lamp and still nothing.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35016424/start.mp4
I also cleared the airbag faults so now the airbag light is turned off.
I'm trying to contact the seller of the immo box and se what he says.
Should I send my Motronic and get the Drivelock and immo removed, 595$?
Changed the lamp and still nothing.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35016424/start.mp4
I also cleared the airbag faults so now the airbag light is turned off.
I'm trying to contact the seller of the immo box and se what he says.
Should I send my Motronic and get the Drivelock and immo removed, 595$?
In the event of a ground fault due to chaffing of wires to lights or MS, because they are on the same circuit, will cause the immobilizer light in the clock to non-function. Ask me how I know Thats the bad news...
The good news is, if the immobilizer is functioning properly; light or no light on the clock, the car will start and drive as expected. This is firsthand experience
...my next quest is to see if I have the right Alarm module 928.618.260.00
Im thinking its for an older model, without immo, could that be the case?
Im thinking its for an older model, without immo, could that be the case?
Rennlister Lorenfb, would know for sure. Might want to PM and link him to your post.
HTH
Last edited by nine9six; 03-25-2016 at 08:49 PM.
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#12
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update...
For those interested, latest development.
Checking all the interior lamps or more lack of, I tested to bridge the starter relay R61.
The starter cranked!
After measuring I only get about 5 volts to the relay feeder, so something is faulty somewhere.
I did not have any gas in the car (and no oil) so I have to wait until tomorrow to see if it starts...
I did put the battery for an overnight charge, and hoping for the night Gods to do their thing.
Cheers
Mike
PS i upgraded my account to full member, had forgot to do that, I really indulge other to do so .... DS
Checking all the interior lamps or more lack of, I tested to bridge the starter relay R61.
The starter cranked!
After measuring I only get about 5 volts to the relay feeder, so something is faulty somewhere.
I did not have any gas in the car (and no oil) so I have to wait until tomorrow to see if it starts...
I did put the battery for an overnight charge, and hoping for the night Gods to do their thing.
Cheers
Mike
PS i upgraded my account to full member, had forgot to do that, I really indulge other to do so .... DS
#13
Burning Brakes
If all is as should be as described above, then you need to program your remote to the immobilizer. How you will do this without the immobilizer code is beyond me; unless the origin of the immobilizer has the VIN to the car it came from, or the code/code card itself.
If the VIN of the origin car is available, a Porsche dealer can retrieve the code from their VIN database...Most dealers insist on proof of ownership of the VIN (reg or pink slip)
Maybe the dealer can hook their diagnostic software to the car or immobilizer and retrieve the code; otherwise I sense a conundrum!
If the VIN of the origin car is available, a Porsche dealer can retrieve the code from their VIN database...Most dealers insist on proof of ownership of the VIN (reg or pink slip)
Maybe the dealer can hook their diagnostic software to the car or immobilizer and retrieve the code; otherwise I sense a conundrum!
The OP mentioned that he had gotten the ECU with the immobilizer. If so, the VIN number from the donor car should be on the ECU nameplate. Take that number to the dealer for programming of the remotes.
#14
You can by pass Drive Block easily
Call ECU specialists
800-328-1425
For a reasonable fee they will bench test and repair or by-pass with an overlay chip the drive block and alarm/DME
Send them all 3 control units and your remotes and they will replace leaking capacitors, common issue mine had and if you like also by pass the drive block.
it works as stock, full alarm function and remote locking, just no drive block
Its fully reversible if you want to return to stock later.
They even supplied the R61 starter bridge for the relay box and great instructions..
www.ecudoctors.com
Good Luck and Best Regards, Dustin in Las Vegas
800-328-1425
For a reasonable fee they will bench test and repair or by-pass with an overlay chip the drive block and alarm/DME
Send them all 3 control units and your remotes and they will replace leaking capacitors, common issue mine had and if you like also by pass the drive block.
it works as stock, full alarm function and remote locking, just no drive block
Its fully reversible if you want to return to stock later.
They even supplied the R61 starter bridge for the relay box and great instructions..
www.ecudoctors.com
Good Luck and Best Regards, Dustin in Las Vegas
#15
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Thanks for the input
I will call this tuesday.
For now, I'm looking into why I only get about 5V to the starter relay - when turning key to position 3.
Does anyone got some high resolution diagrams of the 993 Sheet 5, with the starter relay and so forth?
Mike
For now, I'm looking into why I only get about 5V to the starter relay - when turning key to position 3.
Does anyone got some high resolution diagrams of the 993 Sheet 5, with the starter relay and so forth?
Mike