Has anyone had ceramic coating applied to their Fabspeed sport cat X-pipes? If so, who did you use and were you satisfied?

 

I really don't feel ceramic coating on a part that is in the air stream of the car needs ceramic coating. The mufflers, maybe, as they are tucked under, but the X pipe is in the wind.

 

i thinks if its more for looks performance coatings has a coating alot of people apply to the supercups to keep them shiney





photo credit to Joe S.

 

Agree for the muffler ...

freshly done (VHT flame proof):



installed:



after one year:

 

As far as I am concerned, ceramic coatings on hidden exhaust systems is a HUGE waste of $$$! Especially when applied to SS systems, which already possess anti corrosive properties. Ceramic over mild steel has a purpose/function.

 

So what?

Half of my money I spent for girls and booze, the rest for my Porsches ...

At least I didn't waste it ...

 

Its not for corrosion control, it is for heat control. The coating can act as a thermal barrier and keep the exhaust heat inside the system, especially on the turbos where the exhaust system can get hot enough to glow red when pushed ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_barrier_coating

Cheers,

Mike

 

Mike,
I have yet to see any side by side comparison data showing significant heat barrier properties. As soon as I mention these words, then the sellers/promoters say its more of a protective coating... Maybe they should pick one and stick by it!

I am well aware of the marketing propaganda...Data talks, marketing hoopla walks. I'm sorry...my background has always revolved around engineering test data, and conclusive results in lieu of sales and marketing strategies.

Are you suggesting turbos dont glow red when ceramic coated? Does it make sense that engineering would not take into account the heat generated by a turbo when selecting a material capable of withstanding the environmental stresses?

P.S. girls and booze is money well spent

 

I agree about numbers, but when I first heard about these coatings, I was skeptical and did some googling around and there is data out there about how well these coatings help reduce heat conduction, etc. I think you would need to look at the specifications for the exact coatings you are investigating, and do the math and possibly measurements to see how well the coating works, if at all. I have not done that, nor run any coated exhaust components (yet).

As for coating say 993 mufflers for corrosion control, not much point given they are a stainless that seem to only be susceptible to heat staining. The pitch is definitely around heat control.

BTW, I am a P.Eng. (equivalent to a P.E. in the US) so I get the data analysis prove-it-to-me point of view!

Cheers,

Mike

 

Much more on ceramic coatings...

http://www.ncnr.nist.gov/programs/sa...tions/0081.pdf

Paint on coatings offer little; plasma flame sprayed (expensive) coatings provide protections desired.

For our applications, I give you a guess at which application method is widely employed, with the exception of deep pocketed race applications!

Nuff said.

 

Nope, saw a video of a guy who put a gopro showing one of his turbos on a 993 on the track - and on open throttle the housing and the exhaust exit pipe glowed a nice red .... so I am just saying it's frigg'n HOT (technical term used..).

I am going to see if I can rig up one of those shots on my next track day. ... BTW, I never endorsed ceramics, I only commented if they do work - and if done right, I think you can get a heat reduction. The trick is, how many systems are done right?

Cheers

Mike

 

So:
"Optional ceramic coating significantly reduces radiated heat" on FD Motorsports website under mufflers coatings is a marketing/sales gimic?

 

I like the look of the SS Fabspeed hardware and left it that way.

I did have my muffler brackets, cat bracket, and the heat shield on the right-side cam tensioner cover ceramic coated.

 

The same can be said about non-stock wheels, gear levers, stereos, splitters, wings, and any number of things. Technically they are all a waste of money. But, they may scratch an itch.

The only TRUE waste of money is an RWB conversion.

 

RL duplicated