+993 on speaking to a lawyer. Good luck.
Damaged 993 C4s on transport
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Rennlister mr_bock crushed his roof and repaired it. He may be willing to provide some advice.
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Unbelievable, I agree a visit to a lawyer is the first thing I would be doing. Personally I'd just want to get paid out and basically get all my $ back (including shipping + misc fees), forget about repairing and keeping. Unless you got a smoking deal on the car, I would just look for another one.
Agree with Ed too, unless it's a top notch body shop you could be looking at other issues in the future too.
Agree with Ed too, unless it's a top notch body shop you could be looking at other issues in the future too.
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looks to have damaged the window frame's also...at least on the driver side. The driver door looks "pushed" down a little in the one pic. So sorry for you, but the look of the damage simply scares me. Without looking back thru threads for this car's listing, I assume you paid near market price from a dealer for the car.
Emotionally invested or not, I would respectfully suggest that you make the shipper's insurance company, make you whole on this. As mentioned in an earlier post, all expense, wire transfer fee's, etc, etc, etc...
Fight them to get it all, your anticipated legal fee's also.
Since the damaged car is pictured in a residental setting, can I assume that you have taken posession of the car?
Find the most trusted, hi-end auto restoration shop around...even if that means flat beding it hundreds of miles. Get a complete rebuild estimate, I gotta believe we're talking big, BIG money here.
Don't know the car's specs, mileage, etc...but I assume you bought a mid mile, all original paint, no accidents, clean carfax WB. Unfortunately, that car no longer exists.
Could you sue the transport company for neglince also?
Lawyer up, and good luck.
Emotionally invested or not, I would respectfully suggest that you make the shipper's insurance company, make you whole on this. As mentioned in an earlier post, all expense, wire transfer fee's, etc, etc, etc...
Fight them to get it all, your anticipated legal fee's also.
Since the damaged car is pictured in a residental setting, can I assume that you have taken posession of the car?
Find the most trusted, hi-end auto restoration shop around...even if that means flat beding it hundreds of miles. Get a complete rebuild estimate, I gotta believe we're talking big, BIG money here.
Don't know the car's specs, mileage, etc...but I assume you bought a mid mile, all original paint, no accidents, clean carfax WB. Unfortunately, that car no longer exists.
Could you sue the transport company for neglince also?
Lawyer up, and good luck.
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Ok so is the paint single stage or clear? Solid colors were single stage until the end of 1996, after that it seems to vary. The reason is there are few shops that can do single stage correctly. You will get shops that cannot do single stage try to get you to go with clear on the damaged areas and say it will look fine which is total BS. You need a total respray. The cost to do a single stage, with the correct paint brand (Glasurit/etc) windows out, metal correction on the damaged areas etc is going to be well well north of $20k, more likely in the $30's.
There will be diminished value as well no matter how good the job for some time into the future.
There will be diminished value as well no matter how good the job for some time into the future.
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Couldn't agree more. I'm not a lawyer, so I have no idea what the law permits, but selling the car to the transport company would be the best solution.
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Basically your end result is going to be taking it to a body shop and then the insurance company is going to pay the bill. There will be no telling the shipping company they just bought a 50,000+ Porsche when the damage is 20K.
Make sure you get the final say on where the repairs will take place. Make sure you document everything. Who you talked to, when, and notes on the conversation.
Since nobody has asked, who was the transporter?
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I am horrified looking at that trying to fathom the immense let down after months of anticipation. I'm sorry but I'd walk. Especially after seeing how beautiful the car is. Start over, buy a plane ticket and driver her home. Blast the carrier (just divuldge their name) there's no liabilty in being honest. You can wait till they have paid out. They need to pay for pain and suffering. If some dumb fata$$ can sue because he fell asleep an national TV, then you should be able to recoup something more than your out of pocket. Total up the hours you spent searching, any and all fees for anything and add a percentage. Others have stated so, but this is negligence. Be it lack of maintenance of equipment or while loading. They need to assure that anything they carry if done so without damage. I don't buy into the "that's what insurance is for" crap. Do it right the first time, not try and make it right after you didn't do your job properly in the first place. If a tornado took the rig for a ride is one thing, this is downright sad. We don't have a common belief of workmanship/craftmenship in the workforce anymore.Sorry again for the loss.
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Wow, such damage. It might as well have fallen off the transport and rolled down a cliff.
If stuff starts getting ugly, i'd put the carrier's logo, contact info, and representative information across one of the pictures of the damaged car and share it with anyone and everyone who listens, online and offline. Blast it across social media. F' them.
If stuff starts getting ugly, i'd put the carrier's logo, contact info, and representative information across one of the pictures of the damaged car and share it with anyone and everyone who listens, online and offline. Blast it across social media. F' them.
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What do you mean, nobody asked?
Its been asked at least a couple of times.
Its been asked at least a couple of times.
Great description of the damage.
Basically your end result is going to be taking it to a body shop and then the insurance company is going to pay the bill. There will be no telling the shipping company they just bought a 50,000+ Porsche when the damage is 20K.
Make sure you get the final say on where the repairs will take place. Make sure you document everything. Who you talked to, when, and notes on the conversation.
Since nobody has asked, who was the transporter?
Basically your end result is going to be taking it to a body shop and then the insurance company is going to pay the bill. There will be no telling the shipping company they just bought a 50,000+ Porsche when the damage is 20K.
Make sure you get the final say on where the repairs will take place. Make sure you document everything. Who you talked to, when, and notes on the conversation.
Since nobody has asked, who was the transporter?