secondsole

I am considering buying a very clean example of a 1996 4s, 30k. One issue, it's been modded, by the dealer, to be 'faster.' Engine bored out, different intake, etc...$30k in work done. I have driven it, the car is literally perfect. I personally don't mind the mods, they were done at a dealer and it drives amazing.

Does this take away from the asking price of $59k? What is a moded one worth? I realize this is very open ended, so generally speaking if you will. Thanks in advance.

destaccado

It absolutely drops the value to the "bubble" crowd. ...and I doubt it raises the value for anyone else unless the shop doing the work was along the lines of RUF.

I'd put the current eBay sale value of a no-accident clean 96 c4s with a 6-speed and 30k miles and desired colors at ~60k. Those mods would probably drop the car from collector value to more of a "driver" value which is probably 5-10k below that. If you like the mods and got the car @ 55 or so I'd think you got a fair deal assuming everything else checks out.

My knowledge on 993 modification value is limited but generally engine modifications seem to hurt a collector car's value rather than help it.

il pirata

I think you need to provide very specific information on the engine mods to get pricing thoughts. Not a lot of dealers who could do extensive 993 engine mods at this point...at least correctly. Who did it/detailed list of mods/what where the gains after the mods and how measured/how long ago/under warranty for the engine?/etc.

It will drop the value to a number of buyers but depending on the above may not lower the value to other buyers...not likely to increase the value versus stock though.

ca993twin

You don't "bore" a 911 engine, you replace the pistons and cylinders with those of a larger size, normally taking our 3.6 liter engines to 3.8 liters... a 5% gain in capacity. The cylinders can either be thinner walled to fit in the existing case and cylinder heads, or if the thickness is same as stock (better for longevity) the case and heads must be machined to fit the bigger cylinders. It would be good to know more details about this modification. You can expect a 5% improvement in HP from this mod... about 15 HP.

"different intake"??? This is not a modification I have ever seen, unless they are taking about drilling the airbox on the air filter, or something similar that yields no HP gain.

More details required.

e3photo

Curious if they changed engine management when they changed intakes. This could affect whether it will pass emissions easily if it is running a new ECU,but there may be something I am missing. I agree that a modified low mileage car probably has a smaller audience than if it were left stock.
Just my .02.


Emerald

tcsracing1

30k miles 1996 C4S is all of $50000.00-$55000.00

$50k is the max id pay for one with a "modded" motor however.

Id say the engine required a top end rebuild and the owner threw the book at it while it was open.
His loss, your gain.

It is by no means worth more money over stock. in some cases less. Thus my $50k valuation.

Pags993

^^^^ +1, i always use mods to negotiate lower pricing.

timothymoffat

I'd make an exception for upgraded suspension.

e9stibi

Let me add factory sport seats, OEM 3 spoke steering wheel, CDR 220 and anything that is OEM RS parts.

Chris M.

Yes and for that kind of money I would buy a stock turbo.

AKTUNG

DITTO11

cgfen

good luck with that.
unless you are referring to 996 turbo.