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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 02:17 AM
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Wow. These look perfect. You shud patent these, make some more and market them on rennlist!
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 02:27 AM
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My mistake - $299 per pair.
Nice, but still way too expensive for me, considering the price of alternatives.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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Buying cheap jack stands is a false economy, just like putting $5 oil in our cars, or buying a $100 helmet. as has been said, if something goes wrong it;'s going to be ugly. If possible pick up stands that have a pin that holds it in place rather than the ratchet style ones, much greater safety margin there.

I just bought a set of the esco stands and should have them in a couple of weeks. The $230 I paid is cheap, because I know that if my car falls off cheap stands the damage to the car will be higher and the damage to me would be catastrophic.

I am also working in a friends car at the moment that is sitting on a set of Jackpoint jack stands. These are the most stable jack stands I have ever worked with. The only think I don't like is the height, if they were a few inches higher it would make working under the car a whole lot easier.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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Valid point. Options exist for up to 14" of clearance under the factory lift point.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by trophy
Buying cheap jack stands is a false economy, just like putting $5 oil in our cars, or buying a $100 helmet. as has been said, if something goes wrong it;'s going to be ugly. If possible pick up stands that have a pin that holds it in place rather than the ratchet style ones, much greater safety margin there.

I just bought a set of the esco stands and should have them in a couple of weeks. The $230 I paid is cheap, because I know that if my car falls off cheap stands the damage to the car will be higher and the damage to me would be catastrophic.

I am also working in a friends car at the moment that is sitting on a set of Jackpoint jack stands. These are the most stable jack stands I have ever worked with. The only think I don't like is the height, if they were a few inches higher it would make working under the car a whole lot easier.
While I agree, the way I look at it is this:

Saddle style jackstands have been used for decades. The style of the jackstand is less important than proper placement for the type of jackstand that you use. If you don't feel confident placing saddle jack stands under your 993, go with the escos. I use the saddles and am cautious in placing them correctly. The car is very solid on these stands.

tools are only as good as the person using them.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 12:44 PM
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Quad. I was never able to get comfortable using my sears saddle jacks. The funky way that we have to jack up these cars (especially if lowered) is pretty funky. There are moments where the car is on one or two front jack stands. With the saddle jack, I noticed movement one time that spooked me.

I then bought the Esco and they are very, very stable. They are stout enough to use on my 6,000 lb SUVs too. The Escos allow me to get pretty good height too allowing lots of room to work under the car.

I am a bit claustrophobic, so the strength, stability and additional height help me.

They work well for me and I am glad that I invested in them!
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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Here is a couple of pictures of my solution, I call it "The evolution of the jack stand" They work very well, and cost me less than $ 100.00 for all four.
That said, I still put wooden blocks under the car as a double safety.

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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Quad, I agree, Saddle style can work very well with out cars, and this is the way I have done it for a long time. What I am less comfortable with are the ratchet style height adjusters vs a pin style like the esco, and many others.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 02:30 PM
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The advantage of the Esco, or what CRG53 has done is noteworthy. Over 90% of jack stand failures have nothing to do with the jack stand breaking. The "failure" is most often the result of the car slipping off the jack stand (you also here of guys having their cars slip off the jack). With post '87 911's there is a chassis lifting point that has a hole in it. If your stand has a pin going into the hole - the car can't slip off. It has to be lifted first. I think that's a big plus. It might be a do-able modification on an Esco - but I don't know and I'm not recommending that anyone modify their products. In the end we sell a safe option, but not the only option. The most important part is be safe with whatever option you choose. A working jack is only required to hold load for a VERY limited time to be considered functioning. They are classified as lifting devices NOT support devices. Threads like this are great because they allow readers to explore and see what's available.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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Yup, agree, I also wanted a positive pin lock onto the car - and I see others built that in as well on their custom units.
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