It's that time of year when I consider selling my 993
08-23-2012, 09:27 PM
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you need a bigger garage!
keep the 993 and the turbo look cab.
trade or sell the turbo for something else...... FWIW the R8 allure wears off after a year and depreciation dosnt make it feel any better....
keep the 993 and the turbo look cab.
trade or sell the turbo for something else...... FWIW the R8 allure wears off after a year and depreciation dosnt make it feel any better....
08-23-2012, 09:28 PM
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And, I have considered in the past selling the Turbo and the C2S and picking up a GT3RS but that desire passed. I don't really track much anymore. Haven't been to the track in a few years. And I've never owned a convertible of any sort. I'm wondering if I'd like it.
08-23-2012, 09:39 PM
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Why would I sell the Escalade for a G-Wagon? I use the Escalade as a limo (I hire a driver off craigslist when I'm gonna be out drinking.) and It's great for getting the gang up to Mammoth.
And, I have considered in the past selling the Turbo and the C2S and picking up a GT3RS but that desire passed. I don't really track much anymore. Haven't been to the track in a few years. And I've never owned a convertible of any sort. I'm wondering if I'd like it.
And, I have considered in the past selling the Turbo and the C2S and picking up a GT3RS but that desire passed. I don't really track much anymore. Haven't been to the track in a few years. And I've never owned a convertible of any sort. I'm wondering if I'd like it.
If you are looking for a fun secondary car that will never see track then perhaps a convertible is a good choice, especially something with a soft clutch or automatic.... but a GT3RS is fun,even off the track
08-23-2012, 09:51 PM
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It's still got the H&R coilovers, no cup holders, no nav.... (but it does have an insanely good, new, $3k stereo in it with bluetooth.) I hate letting valet's drive it. Where as the turbo, I just hand em the keys. I would do the same with an R8. It's just different. The newer cars are a snap to drive and I wouldn't worry about it the way I do with the 993 even though it's 3x more valuable.
And you can't escape Valet in LA.
And I also feel for a daily driver, I want something more modern. Even in 1996-1998 most people didn't use their 993's as daily driver. It's 15 years later!
I would argue, while the 993 can be used as a daily driver, it wasn't until the 996 that a 911 truly became a comfortable DD.
And you can't escape Valet in LA.
And I also feel for a daily driver, I want something more modern. Even in 1996-1998 most people didn't use their 993's as daily driver. It's 15 years later!
I would argue, while the 993 can be used as a daily driver, it wasn't until the 996 that a 911 truly became a comfortable DD.
Navigation...garmin or a cell phone works just fine.
Cupholders...there are a bunch of cheap aftermarket options.
As for your valet fear...get over it. You said it, you live in LA. Its just a car, you will ALWAYS find another.
I'm one of those who remember "B" from the couple of days after he got his 993 (and still lived in Miami), cool guy and glad to see living his dream in West Coast (you were talking about it back then).
And here comes the perspective you're looking for...
You're ******* mad to even concider selling the 993. Might aound harsh but it's the truth.
You don't need to sell it, the "pain in the ***" of owning 3 cars is really a pain in the ***...
We're talking "1st World" problems here, get over it.
Seriously, your 993 is really. Ice and 11 years is a long time, it's part of the family by now, so when it feels like PITA, get over it.
My advice, if you need to do something, is to sell the 997 TT and replace that with the R8 as the DD.
Cheers,
Petu
And here comes the perspective you're looking for...
You're ******* mad to even concider selling the 993. Might aound harsh but it's the truth.
You don't need to sell it, the "pain in the ***" of owning 3 cars is really a pain in the ***...
We're talking "1st World" problems here, get over it.
Seriously, your 993 is really. Ice and 11 years is a long time, it's part of the family by now, so when it feels like PITA, get over it.
My advice, if you need to do something, is to sell the 997 TT and replace that with the R8 as the DD.
Cheers,
Petu
Your downplaying his "pita" and telling him to get over it is silly. Its not a family member...its a stupid piece of metal...get some perspective
It rides like it has no suspension, sucks gas like 747, has insane wind noise, ergonomics from a school bus, and has limited passenger room.
Not to mention they are expensive to buy and expensive to own.
G-wagens kick *** offroad, but for that you can buy an 80s g280. As a daily driver, they are plain terrible.
08-23-2012, 09:56 PM
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Sell the 993....but keep the tail!
Seriously though, sell the 993 and make the turbo your DD. You know first year turbos are taking a bath...so keep her.
Seriously though, sell the 993 and make the turbo your DD. You know first year turbos are taking a bath...so keep her.
08-23-2012, 10:26 PM
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Now lets say growing up your dad got a cool car cause it was a porsche 911, but it wasn't that cool to you. It was a color you would never choose to buy a car in, it was a convertible when you always drove a coupe, etc.
Both my brother and I are track drivers. If we have a performance car, we track it. Now imagine having a car that is a performance car but is not trackable. It's too heavy, it's too soft, it's short on HP. How long would you let that car take up a spot in your garage that you could use for something you enjoyed driving? I think 17 years is enough time considering it got driven maybe 100 miles a year.
Now if either of us enjoyed driving around in a bright red, 25 year old convertible that isn't particularly fast or doesn't handle that well, I might agree with you.. But it's just not our taste.
08-23-2012, 10:27 PM
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08-23-2012, 10:28 PM
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The only reason to sell the 993 would be if I needed the combined equity of both cars to afford a R8 Spyder.
08-23-2012, 10:32 PM
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Why is he mad to sell it? Did all of them fall of the face of the planet? There are thousands of these cars out there, and there will always be another nice one to buy if he truly misses it. Why not try out a superior car in the R8 for a while.
Your downplaying his "pita" and telling him to get over it is silly. Its not a family member...its a stupid piece of metal...get some perspective
Your downplaying his "pita" and telling him to get over it is silly. Its not a family member...its a stupid piece of metal...get some perspective
His comment that I'd be "mad to sell it" I'm sure is only a reflection of how "mad happy I was when I got it." Seeing as he remembers those events some decade ago and recognizes the fact that I still have it.
He's not reacting toward it as a family member and he knows it's a stupid piece of metal.. But he also has a perspective, which is the perspective of having traveled 10+ years down this road with me and knowing the affinity I've always had for the car.
08-23-2012, 10:40 PM
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This is a forum and the point of a forum is to discuss things, however, you are on a 993 forum so I hope you weren't waiting for everyone to tell you to sell the 993.
I love the G wagen but that thing has no room inside and it does suck fuel like a 747. If you need an SUV w/ luggage room and which can seat many people, a Chevy/Cadillac is probably your best bet.
Regarding your dad's car, cars are meant to be driven. So if you wouldn't drive it then it makes sense to let it go to someone who will enjoy it. Also, if my dad had passed and I still had his car I would probably sell it just so it wouldn't remind me of that.
Now regarding the R8, I love that thing. I love the 993 more but in a different way. 993 is a fairly raw experience and very unique (air-cooled, rear-engined, etc.), however, the R8 is cool in its own way and is a much better daily driver. I'm not sure how reliable Audis are but I would still like one if I could afford it.
At the end of the day do whatever makes you happy, even if it means leaving the Porsche family. If you don't end up liking the R8 you can always go back to a 993.
I love the G wagen but that thing has no room inside and it does suck fuel like a 747. If you need an SUV w/ luggage room and which can seat many people, a Chevy/Cadillac is probably your best bet.
Regarding your dad's car, cars are meant to be driven. So if you wouldn't drive it then it makes sense to let it go to someone who will enjoy it. Also, if my dad had passed and I still had his car I would probably sell it just so it wouldn't remind me of that.
Now regarding the R8, I love that thing. I love the 993 more but in a different way. 993 is a fairly raw experience and very unique (air-cooled, rear-engined, etc.), however, the R8 is cool in its own way and is a much better daily driver. I'm not sure how reliable Audis are but I would still like one if I could afford it.
At the end of the day do whatever makes you happy, even if it means leaving the Porsche family. If you don't end up liking the R8 you can always go back to a 993.
08-23-2012, 10:43 PM
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Me and Petu go back a long way. He is one of the few Rennlisters here who remember the smiles we shared when we both landed our 993's in 2001/2002.
His comment that I'd be "mad to sell it" I'm sure is only a reflection of how "mad happy I was when I got it." Seeing as he remembers those events some decade ago and recognizes the fact that I still have it.
He's not reacting toward it as a family member and he knows it's a stupid piece of metal.. But he also has a perspective, which is the perspective of having traveled 10+ years down this road with me and knowing the affinity I've always had for the car.
His comment that I'd be "mad to sell it" I'm sure is only a reflection of how "mad happy I was when I got it." Seeing as he remembers those events some decade ago and recognizes the fact that I still have it.
He's not reacting toward it as a family member and he knows it's a stupid piece of metal.. But he also has a perspective, which is the perspective of having traveled 10+ years down this road with me and knowing the affinity I've always had for the car.
08-23-2012, 11:03 PM
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+1. He's been a Rennlister for a long time.
Does anyone remember JimBobJumpback calling B-Line "Bubba B-Line"? I do and got a kick out of it.
I'm one of those who remember "B" from the couple of days after he got his 993 (and still lived in Miami), cool guy and glad to see living his dream in West Coast (you were talking about it back then).
And here comes the perspective you're looking for...
You're ******* mad to even concider selling the 993. Might aound harsh but it's the truth.
You don't need to sell it, the "pain in the ***" of owning 3 cars is really a pain in the ***...
We're talking "1st World" problems here, get over it.
Seriously, your 993 is really. Ice and 11 years is a long time, it's part of the family by now, so when it feels like PITA, get over it.
My advice, if you need to do something, is to sell the 997 TT and replace that with the R8 as the DD.
Cheers,
Petu
And here comes the perspective you're looking for...
You're ******* mad to even concider selling the 993. Might aound harsh but it's the truth.
You don't need to sell it, the "pain in the ***" of owning 3 cars is really a pain in the ***...
We're talking "1st World" problems here, get over it.
Seriously, your 993 is really. Ice and 11 years is a long time, it's part of the family by now, so when it feels like PITA, get over it.
My advice, if you need to do something, is to sell the 997 TT and replace that with the R8 as the DD.
Cheers,
Petu