Matt Lane

I am sure everyone has formulated their own opinion by now, but if I were to put aside the clairvoyance of long-tem collectibility for cars that see limited to no mileage, I really don't get the C2S vs. TT comparison.

Assuming bigger is better, the C2S has aesthetically pleasing rear fenders and a few differentiating cosmetic details. Other than being perhaps heavier, it is otherwise indestinguishable from a 1997 Carrera.

The Turbo does not compare - engine, brakes, suspension - totally different performance and really a different car altogether.

Comparing a 993 Carrera to a 993 TT would be a legitimate question of preference, performance and budget. But the C2S premium eludes me.

To each their own... and I do love them all!

race911

[quote=Bradford;9450518]Yeah, I think the gist of it is correct. But I'm mostly talking track duty--DE, open testing, and even racing. The straights are the most boring part. You've got your gas on point, and then it's just waiting for the braking point. Lots of time in videos I'll notice it's when I relax my hands, fiddle with my gloves--basically mentally check out for a few seconds thinking about my last round of golf or what needs to get done back at the shop. (Distinguish scenarios where there are cars around v. truly being out there solo. You don't let up on concentration when other cars are around.)

So, no I don't get the Chris Matthews thrill up my leg from acceleration. Really never have, and while I've not cared to own any really fast accelerating cars I have driven many. Street and track. And it's absolutely the least challenging thing there is to do behind the wheel. (And don't think I'm slamming drag racing here. Fascinated with that, and the ability to get a car to hook up. The guy who bought my RSA was ex-NHRA Top Alcohol with some Top Fuel experience. Spent more time picking his brain about those series than we talked about my car.)

Quadcammer

well this thread went pretty much as expected.

Ken...track data, check
C2S owners...we like it better than the turbo, check
somebody..."its better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow, check
993 turbo owner...I spin in third gear (never happened to me ever, btw), check
guy with some sense...drive both and see which you like better, check


you want my opinion? 282bhp is not gonna cut it. I don't care about the collectability of my cars. My old POS has way to many miles on it for that to even be a factor.

Buy what you prefer driving and worry about resale later.

Van1

In what situations does 282hp not cut it for you? Street? Track? Please share your experiences and logic. I have found 282hp in a 993 to be adequate at the track. Not saying more power wouldn't be nice but 400hp would only get me down the straights faster. Won't really buy me much in the turns in an otherwise similarly handling car. And like Ken states, accelerating down the straights is the boring part of DEs for some of us. Viper guys love it though. Don't really care about the street. I have a 553 lb/ft of torque Touareg that will suck me into my seat nicely when I feel the need.

I do agree, one should buy what they prefer. I know that I won't be polling Rennlist on what car I should buy next.

Quadcammer

Its not a logic argument, its a personal preference. I like power and acceleration. When I drove NA 993s, i was always longing for more power. The car just felt a bit slow to me.

bbs993tt

For ME, there is no comparison. Don't want to hijack this thread but if you want my thoughts other than there is no comparison, pm me and I'll be happy to share.

CalvinC4S

Post #9 nailed it.

I have driven both back to back on a daily bases for years.
The two greats are the light narrow body varioram coupe and the TT (IMO).

Depends if your location calls for a sling shot or sub 100mph precision in the twistys.

I used to think that the ultimate middle ground was the 4S, I now know you need both.

The C2S was looked at and is still in my eyes the entry level to wide body cars, get the turbo. (investment wise).

skicoach

No one has mentioned this to my knowledge so I thought I'd share another thought. I really don't care for the whale on the TT's. I think the WB's look much better w/o them. I love the C2S for it's aesthetic appeal, historical perspective, and RWD handling.

DC from Cape Cod

I looked at and drove both and bought the C2S....it is not a better car...but it is the car that I liked better. Power is like ***** - more is not always better and everyone likes something different.

Porschegroove

Very well said DC

race911

I may talk track data, but what do I see in your response--data (282bhp). Goes back to the naval gazing when I got into these things on whether you wanted a 2.4 E or S because some car magazine got a better 0-60 time with an E. And I'm sure we can back it up all the way to a couple of cavemen grunting about whose wheel was rounder.

Anyway, I think when I got in on page 1 it had already been mentioned to the original poster to buy which he liked more. Which I concurred, as do you.

lopro

***** for the win

Quadcammer

Ken, you took that the wrong way.

There is nothing wrong with presenting track data as its really the only quantifiable way to measure these things.

Just seems that these threads all go the same way.

dcdude

+1. IIRC, the C2S was a no-cost option based on subjective aesthetics and some interior trim bits. This wide body look is in fashion right now, which keeps prices up. A Turbo has tangible hardware upgrades and undisputed performance advantages. If you're looking to retain as much of your purchase price as possible over the long term, I can't see how the C2S will "out value" at TT, assuming you bought it right.

DC from Cape Cod

My car is worth about 90% of what I paid for it 11 years ago...I can live with that.