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Old 03-16-2012, 02:36 PM
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Ziechen is describing the procedure I learned also.
EMB, the gauge reads the level in the tank, not the sump, I believe. They need to have a class for these cars like aircraft type ratings...
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Never use the oil level gauge until the engine is warn, & you are at idle. Under normal driving it should be in the red or around the red. Then you stop for a light, it should move up, but how much depends on how hot the car is (of course oil level as well). If it goes up that high when just warm, you are overfilled, or your gauge needs to be calibrated.

I've shipped a couple of cars, they would never remove oil from a car. Plus they are all idiots, & can barley start up & move cars. Last car I shipped had a very well built motor, you had to let it run for at least 2min or it would fowl the plugs, I put a sticky on the steering wheel with instructions, & also included spare plugs & tools to change them (10min job). Car arrived & would not start, & they didn't have a clue why.
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Originally Posted by Falcondrivr
Ziechen is describing the procedure I learned also.
EMB, the gauge reads the level in the tank, not the sump, I believe. They need to have a class for these cars like aircraft type ratings...
they really do, this motor is a whole different breed than anything im familiar with. if the sump is on the outside, and the gauge is reading from the sump, why is it at zero when you initially start up?

Thank you Ziechen
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Originally Posted by Falcondrivr
They need to have a class for these cars like aircraft type ratings...
What, your speedo doesn't have Vmc on it?
Old 03-16-2012, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBPilot
they really do, this motor is a whole different breed than anything im familiar with. if the sump is on the outside, and the gauge is reading from the sump, why is it at zero when you initially start up?

Thank you Ziechen
My theory is, and it's just that, is that oil actually pools in the bottom of the crankcase when the car is parked. When it warms up, that oil is returned to the tank. There must me something else going on too, otherwise the level would come up right away, rather than waiting until the car is hot.
Short answer: I've no idea..
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
What, your speedo doesn't have Vmc on it?
I think Va is more appropriate for me.
Old 03-16-2012, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcondrivr
I think Va is more appropriate for me.
OK, so its not a Piper Twin Commanche.

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Originally Posted by Falcondrivr
On my car, that would be way overfilled. With the temp guage at 8:30-9:00, my oil level just comes out of the red. If I put more in, it goes right out, back to that level.
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Originally Posted by Falcondrivr
When it warms up, that oil is returned to the tank. There must me something else going on too, otherwise the level would come up right away, rather than waiting until the car is hot.
I haven't really delved into the lubrication system of our cars, other than finding out what the various pressure relief valves open at.

But I believe our oil pumps are really two oil pumps; one that provides oil pressure to the engine, and another that pumps oil from the sump up to the oil tank.

I believe that hot oil expands in volume which is why the oil level increases slightly.
Old 03-17-2012, 12:17 PM
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Took out a few quarts of oil and the world is now a better place. Porsche did it all free o charge and even cleaned up the engine bay where the oil spilled over.
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I use the dipstick. The oil gauges are not reliable.
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I use the oil gauges. I can never see the oil on the dipstick.
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If I ever had reason to suspect a shipper drained oil-what reason on earth would there be for them to do that(?)-I'd have some serious conversation with the president of the company.

But, it sounds like the assumption, for whatever reason you came up with it, was unwarranted.

You said the Porsche dealer fixed it for free-are they the ones that over-filled it?
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Default Oil Level Gauge

Cam,

Moreso than any other 993 I have either owned or driven, the oil level gauge in this car is very sensitive to how warm the engine is. It will not read correctly until the temperature gauge is at or slightly above the third mark.

As far as oil consumption goes it does exactly what is described in the owners manual. In town driving does not seem to show any oil consumption per se. However, during prolonged highway driving the engine will consume about 1 quart per 1500 miles.

Too bad you got thrown by the incorrect information about the shipping company possibly draining two quarts of oil, Poudre put in the correct amount and that is always the best starting point to monitor the oil level.

Bruce
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Look at picture #2. It is captioned "fully warmed up," but the oil temp gauge hasn't budged, and the level gauge is at mid-range. There's your problem: the car is not actually warmed up at that point, and as a result, the oil level gauge is not giving you a true reading. The car was not warmed up until picture #3, which is when you need to read the oil level gauge -- and it's off the scale high. The overflow out the filler pipe is consistent with what your gauges are telling you.


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