paa502

"So what?" Your original comment is inaccurate while the response states the issue in a true context.

77'3.6vram

Who said anything about deserving or not?That is not what America is all about.Americans ,for the most part,are financially irresponsible.I believe most Americans live way above there means.If you are buying any 911 with financing, you do not deserve to own it.Tax loopholes not withstanding.Jack Dorrian of " Dorrians Red Hand" once told me while I was dating he's youngest daughter "if you can't afford to pay cash for it,you shouldn't have it".This was the best financial advice I have ever received.If you relate to the 99%ers on any front ,you have no business owning a Porsche.If we all got what we deserved in this country I would be dead.Happy Holidays-to all.

tcsracing1

the engineering in the 993 suspension alone justifies buying it over a 964 if you have the extra cash.

the 964 is a "detuned" 993 or a "poor mans 993"

ABCar

^^^Well I financed mine and DO think I deserve to own it. I also financed my other Porsches too.

It is okay (I think) to pay a little premium. I think you may refer to those who live off of their credit cards and refinancing loans. 964, 993, 356. 911, 944 or 901...They are all great. There is nothing wrong with a little credit. Do you have a mortgage?

77'3.6vram

No!

ABCar

Congratulations... Should have read your signature. I am only in the 99%

jimbo3

When I was in the buying mode, it came down to a 993 for several reasons- self adjusting lifters, much better AC, and styling (not a big fan of the 964's bumper covers). From an investment standpoint, the 993 may hold it's value better than the 964, too. I would rather have a 87-89 3.2 Carrera than a 964, given a choice between the two.

77'3.6vram

Exactly my point.It has become more and more difficult to collect rent/mtg.payments(privet money lending)because people like you can legally dick around paying creditors for the roof over your head as opposed to being embarrass in front of your friends by losing one of your financed Porsches.Keeping up with the Jones's is the biggest fundamental problem this country has.Your a prime example of why this country has gone to ****.It's going to stop.It already has.Could you still get financing in this day and age for all the things in your life you do not own but have the use of?I do not think so!

Jonnygo1

I'm partial to the looks of the 964 over the 993. I've had the opportunity to drive the 2 and 4 wheel drive versions of each and I will say that I quite liked both, but I think the front of the 993 doesn't look quite right (IMO); that said, the *** end of the 993 widebodies is terrific.

As for the mechanicals, I've had my share of problems but have been able to get to the bottom of everything. I think 20 years is alot to ask of some parts and I want to make sure that everything is top notch as I drive with my kids in the car often.

There was a cool thread awhile back where a pro driver who has some experience with Porsche talked about his beloved '94RS as part of his collection.

https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...ollection.html

1pcarnut

Well, you've certainly done a great job of insulting quite a few of the members on this forum. I'm sure you're the kind of person that Porsche could use to really show who deserves to own one of their cars.
Just one question though, how do you get your head through doorways?

ABCar

PecosBill

If Porsche only sold to people that could pay cash for their product, they would have to shut their doors tomorrow.

ja78911sc

77'3.6 is off topic and any response is fueling his fire. Let this thread die

Merry Christmas.........

marcb993

I bought my first Porsche in the late 90's. It was a used 964 C4 Cab and I remember, when I 'graduated' from that into a used 993 C4 Cab a couple of years later, being amazed at how much quicker the 993 built up speed and how much smoother it was.

Funny that now, when I switch between a 993 C2 and a 964 C2, I don't notice this as much any more. Partly, I think this is because I have become used to driving more powerful cars (so the difference between say 250 and 285hp, is somehow less striking when coming down from the 400hp+ of some of Porsche's more modern machinery), but also, my inititial comparisons back in the '90's were both based on C4 variants and the 4WD system of the 964 was much heavier than that of the 993.

So, what would be my advice ? Obviously try before you buy. Also, this doesn't have to be your last P-car. You could start with a good 964, which appear to be much rarer than 993s and appear to be undergoing a resurgence in popularity, which is good from a value perspective, and then get a 993 at a later point in time. Or vice versa.

Definitely, buy based on condition and colour preference. I think for the 964 the c2 is more fun than the C4, because it is about 200lbs lighter, whereas on the 993 the 4WD is system is different and the weight penalty is much lower, so it becomes more about what you prefer (c2 lighter more communicative steering, C4 arguably more traction around corners and in the wet) or whether you even care that much.

marcb993

Sorry, JA78911SC.. I didn't see your post until I finished typing. Anyway, was trying to stay on topic.