At what speed should the rear spoiler rise?
#47
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You guys have just dramatically reduced the world wide demand for spoiler motors and worm gears.
That damn spoiler was the ONE thing I really disliked about this car, and now it's history. Thanks again.
UPDATE: Did the mod three days ago and it works like a CHAMP!! I could not be more pleased.
Thanks.
That damn spoiler was the ONE thing I really disliked about this car, and now it's history. Thanks again.
UPDATE: Did the mod three days ago and it works like a CHAMP!! I could not be more pleased.
Thanks.
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I love what my thread has done!! Wow, proud of myself haha.
Still loving the zero-noise of no spoiler at work, and I smile at the thought of how the car looks at high speeds with the C2S decklid.
This is my new "project" and wish-to-fix:
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...996-targa.html
Who's with me?
Still loving the zero-noise of no spoiler at work, and I smile at the thought of how the car looks at high speeds with the C2S decklid.
This is my new "project" and wish-to-fix:
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...996-targa.html
Who's with me?
#49
I have just completed the “manual only” spoiler operation mod on my ‘96 and figured I would share my experience while it’s still fresh.
The spoiler control module is under the passenger side dash behind the left side of the glove compartment. It’s easily accessible when you look under the dash. I tried to remove the connector from the module but couldn’t get it out. I didn’t want to force anything so I removed the single screw that holds the module in place. I now could pull it down and get a better look. It turns out that the connector does simply pull out but it’s a snug fit.
The back cover of the connector will snap off with a bit of force. This cover is what holds all the individual contacts in place. Now you can easily slide out the #8 pin (green) and #12 pin (wht/red). Take care to hold the other pins in place while you do this. They come out of their locations very easily. This is where Murphy’s Law can easily kick in.
Make sure the remaining contacts are properly seated and snap the cover back on. I wrapped electrical tape around the 2 exposed contacts, folded the 2 wires back along the harness and used a cable tie to secure them. Plug in the connector and reattach the module.
I didn’t disconnect the battery as someone suggested but I probably should have. I don’t know if any of the connections are live with the car off but the possibility of something shorting accidentally is definitely there.
As advertised, I now have only manual spoiler operation via the rocker switch and I am a happy camper. The list of worthwhile Porsche mods that are free is short and this is a good one. Thanks to those who did the homework to figure this out.
The spoiler control module is under the passenger side dash behind the left side of the glove compartment. It’s easily accessible when you look under the dash. I tried to remove the connector from the module but couldn’t get it out. I didn’t want to force anything so I removed the single screw that holds the module in place. I now could pull it down and get a better look. It turns out that the connector does simply pull out but it’s a snug fit.
The back cover of the connector will snap off with a bit of force. This cover is what holds all the individual contacts in place. Now you can easily slide out the #8 pin (green) and #12 pin (wht/red). Take care to hold the other pins in place while you do this. They come out of their locations very easily. This is where Murphy’s Law can easily kick in.
Make sure the remaining contacts are properly seated and snap the cover back on. I wrapped electrical tape around the 2 exposed contacts, folded the 2 wires back along the harness and used a cable tie to secure them. Plug in the connector and reattach the module.
I didn’t disconnect the battery as someone suggested but I probably should have. I don’t know if any of the connections are live with the car off but the possibility of something shorting accidentally is definitely there.
As advertised, I now have only manual spoiler operation via the rocker switch and I am a happy camper. The list of worthwhile Porsche mods that are free is short and this is a good one. Thanks to those who did the homework to figure this out.
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#51
Hmmm... i just read this thread completely but i seem to be the only one not getting the point. Are you really so worried about the spoiler lift mechanism wear? I have never heared/read of anybody having problems with it. You should trust the Porsche quality, guys. And replace if necessary.
And going to full manual operation means that you have one more thing to think of; because the raised spoiler IS needed for cooling (says so in the manual!) and for car stability at higher speeds.
And going to full manual operation means that you have one more thing to think of; because the raised spoiler IS needed for cooling (says so in the manual!) and for car stability at higher speeds.
#52
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As for the cooling and stability question, I will say that the other comments in this thread have given me enough confidence that I will do the following:
1. Raise the spoiler manually when I anticipate speeds above about 75 (yes, another thing to think about but I really hate the look of the "cafeteria tray" extended as I go around town),
2. Keep a close eye on the temp, especially in the summer and in humid conditions; with the engine cover off I think I'm probably OK.
Would really like to hear others' experience here.
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I routinely run 30 miles at 75 mph or so during my commute to work, and I do not extend the spoiler and my oil temp never even gets to full operating temperature.
Stability? Hmmm. Plenty of 911s have no spoiler of any kind and they have been driven very fast around tracks all over the country for decades and I've never heard of or read about any stability issues. I've been driving my '86 Carrera with no spoiler on tracks for the last 8 years up to 130 mph and the car feels rock solid at all speeds.
Stability? Hmmm. Plenty of 911s have no spoiler of any kind and they have been driven very fast around tracks all over the country for decades and I've never heard of or read about any stability issues. I've been driving my '86 Carrera with no spoiler on tracks for the last 8 years up to 130 mph and the car feels rock solid at all speeds.
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Just did this mod myself - literally took only 5 min including being careful not to have the other pins not pop out. Thanks again to all who tested and wrote this up.
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Hmmm... i just read this thread completely but i seem to be the only one not getting the point. Are you really so worried about the spoiler lift mechanism wear? I have never heared/read of anybody having problems with it. You should trust the Porsche quality, guys. And replace if necessary.
And going to full manual operation means that you have one more thing to think of; because the raised spoiler IS needed for cooling (says so in the manual!) and for car stability at higher speeds.
And going to full manual operation means that you have one more thing to think of; because the raised spoiler IS needed for cooling (says so in the manual!) and for car stability at higher speeds.
2. The unsealed bearing is subject to the elements and rusts. This causes noise, poor operation, and...
3. ...in my case the cable broke. You can't replace just the cable; you have to replace the assembly to which is is attached, which costs something like $450. I will be getting an RS wing soon.
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my personal solution to this is to buy a turbo model.
Right now I am not real keen on the no spoiler look, but the spoiler on these continually raising and lowering would drive me nuts as well; especially in stop and go traffic on the highway
I am glad that you guys found a quick simple solution to your problem/issue though. I will keep this in mind if I decide not to pay the premium on a turbo model!
Right now I am not real keen on the no spoiler look, but the spoiler on these continually raising and lowering would drive me nuts as well; especially in stop and go traffic on the highway
I am glad that you guys found a quick simple solution to your problem/issue though. I will keep this in mind if I decide not to pay the premium on a turbo model!
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#60
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I have just completed the “manual only” spoiler operation mod on my ‘96 and figured I would share my experience while it’s still fresh.
The spoiler control module is under the passenger side dash behind the left side of the glove compartment. It’s easily accessible when you look under the dash. I tried to remove the connector from the module but couldn’t get it out. I didn’t want to force anything so I removed the single screw that holds the module in place. I now could pull it down and get a better look. It turns out that the connector does simply pull out but it’s a snug fit.
The back cover of the connector will snap off with a bit of force. This cover is what holds all the individual contacts in place. Now you can easily slide out the #8 pin (green) and #12 pin (wht/red). Take care to hold the other pins in place while you do this. They come out of their locations very easily. This is where Murphy’s Law can easily kick in.
Make sure the remaining contacts are properly seated and snap the cover back on. I wrapped electrical tape around the 2 exposed contacts, folded the 2 wires back along the harness and used a cable tie to secure them. Plug in the connector and reattach the module.
I didn’t disconnect the battery as someone suggested but I probably should have. I don’t know if any of the connections are live with the car off but the possibility of something shorting accidentally is definitely there.
As advertised, I now have only manual spoiler operation via the rocker switch and I am a happy camper. The list of worthwhile Porsche mods that are free is short and this is a good one. Thanks to those who did the homework to figure this out.
The spoiler control module is under the passenger side dash behind the left side of the glove compartment. It’s easily accessible when you look under the dash. I tried to remove the connector from the module but couldn’t get it out. I didn’t want to force anything so I removed the single screw that holds the module in place. I now could pull it down and get a better look. It turns out that the connector does simply pull out but it’s a snug fit.
The back cover of the connector will snap off with a bit of force. This cover is what holds all the individual contacts in place. Now you can easily slide out the #8 pin (green) and #12 pin (wht/red). Take care to hold the other pins in place while you do this. They come out of their locations very easily. This is where Murphy’s Law can easily kick in.
Make sure the remaining contacts are properly seated and snap the cover back on. I wrapped electrical tape around the 2 exposed contacts, folded the 2 wires back along the harness and used a cable tie to secure them. Plug in the connector and reattach the module.
I didn’t disconnect the battery as someone suggested but I probably should have. I don’t know if any of the connections are live with the car off but the possibility of something shorting accidentally is definitely there.
As advertised, I now have only manual spoiler operation via the rocker switch and I am a happy camper. The list of worthwhile Porsche mods that are free is short and this is a good one. Thanks to those who did the homework to figure this out.
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