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Old 12-01-2011, 09:38 AM
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That's awesome that you can do that and enjoy the car that way-I would not enjoy my car if I had to drive it in those conditions, so the experience for me would be that of stress, not driving pleasure-the car, for me would loose it's purpose.

Agree with your thinking.

When I take the car out from winter storage in early April, it is like getting a new car again. My winter beater is a LEASED 2011 BMW. But serious kudos to those who like to drive their Porsches in winter snow. Just not my thing.


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Old 12-01-2011, 10:37 AM
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Having lived away from Canada for 6.5 years now I've forgotten how much salt and rocks are deposited on the roads. Perhaps I can get away with a 993 for 3 seasons and a winter beater for the remainder?

Might be the plan...
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:31 PM
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Do any of you who responded daily drive your 993?

That's the main reason I went to a 997. I'd prefer the 993 (never owned one) due to purity and looks but I'm hesitant on the daily driver issue.
Joining late, sorry.

I think a 993 is fine as a daily driver; mine was, more-or-less, in summer 2010.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:36 AM
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I just went from an 09 C2S to a 97 C2S
Why? Did you want a 993 so bad so you gave up 997.2?
I drove 993 but by all means it is ages behind of what 997.2 can do, even with upgraded suspension.
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:00 AM
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For the track, 997.2 C2S all day long. Much faster, stable, etc. For the road, 993 C2S is my choice. Great looks, sound, feel, etc. Just wanted a change of pace, going to do more PCA drives / tours, etc.
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:05 AM
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I think that needs a lot of courage to change 997 to 993.... if i haven`t anyone i should prefer a 993 to buy, but in the fist case could be very disapointing, an ilusion.
The 997 is a modern car.... more performant, etc, etc...
In other way i have a 964 Targa4 and a 993 RS, and never think to change for 997!

PS: Sorry my bad english
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:22 AM
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I keep seeing folks bring up the 997's performance specs, engineering, etc. as a comparison. I don't think anyone who has a 993 would ever argue that the performance, technical specs and "modern build quality" were on par with a 997. The 997 is a great car-don't take this the wrong way-but not for the same reasons one would like a 993.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:42 AM
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I've gone from a 997 to a 993 with a little 964 on the side for a while. For me it was simple. The 997 while an amazing machine is in my mind more a GT car. Incredibly comfortable, fast, capable, very easy to drive quickly, etc. 993s and their predecessors are sports cars. Smaller, more effort is needed to drive quickly and its a joy to listen to that air cooled engine. I suppose I would just rather not have a car that does all the work for me.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:02 AM
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Jose,
If you have owned both, you would understand those of us that have "given up" our 997s for a 993. We aren't after the fastest most modern and luxurious Porsche experience. We've had it. We are looking for the soul of Porsche. When the 991 information came out I felt Porsche was venturing further from it's roots. Even subtle changes in the 997.2 and 997.1 (I owned both) were moving the company further away from the core. I was ready to move in the opposite direction from where technology was leading Porsche. I looked back and in many ways my 997.1 "felt" more like a Porsche than my 997.2, which was clearly faster. I looked at the 996 and knew that was the first transition car away from the core buyer that built Porsche - the first water cooled and electronic-heavy model. I owned a 964 and it was a wonderful car, but lacked a few of the modern features I require (ie: Pollen filter as I have seasonal allergies). So the 993 was the choice for me - to own and keep forever one of the last Porsches that defined the company.

Of all of the Porsches I've owned, ranging from a 1992 C2 to a 997 GT3, I would honestly have to say my current 1997 C2S is my favorite. It's not nearly the fastest, most comfortable, or luxurious, but it's the most fun. The look and feel of the air cooled 993 is intoxicating. The steering feel, really being connected to the road, is sublime. It's just not something I will tire of any time soon.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:24 AM
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I am in the process of selling my '97 993 turbo and moving to a 997.1 turbo. I daily drove my 993 turbo for a year (with a car seat in back). I sold an Audi RS4 to get into the 993.

For me, the purity of the 993tt, it's incontrovertible spectacular looks and the soul of a true sports car lured me in. And all of that is there in spades!

But, as an every day (1500 miles a month) driver it just didn't give me what my RS4 did performance, acceleration, convenience and comfort wise. The RS4 was awesome with it's 420 hpV8. But it's everyday sedan looks bored the ever loving crap out of me. The 993 gives me goosebumps every time I look at it, but I guess I'm not the purist sports car enthusiast I think I am.

For me, bottom line is that the 997 turbo will give me the heart in my throat thrills that Porsche delivers in every car with the looks of a modern 911 ( no, it's not as close to as pretty as a 993), acceleration of a rocket ship, modern reliability/ride/handling and luxuries that I want in my every day driver.

My 1932 Ford HighBoy Street Rod and my '65 Austin Healey 3000 mk 3 give me my purist thrills. U guys want to talk pure sports car from the days gone by. Guys in the forties were flying across the salt flats in their hot rodded '32 Ford Deuce's doing a 120 mph! Talk about *****! And driving a 100 mph 24 hour rally with no power steering or power breaks, manually choked carb's, straight rod steering wheels that would impale the driver with a head on collision and tires with inner tubes was nuts! But the guys in the old Healey's, Porsche's and Jag's did it with gusto!

There is no right or wrong answer. Everyone is right, for them. Hell, I know someone who daily drives an MG TD!!! For me, I wanted the 993 to be my ultimate DD; but it just fell short in all of the things that I didn't want to be important to me. After a year, I realized that they just are...

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Old 12-08-2011, 09:09 AM
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To Ron & others that have owned the 997's.....
Isn't the GT3 the "bone" Porsche throws to the minority of us that still desire a bit of the raw sports car experience ?(albeit w/modern electronics)
I desire to own a 997.1 GT3 someday (maybe RS), just not sure if i would look back longingly (993).
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RonCT View Post
Jose,
So the 993 was the choice for me - to own and keep forever one of the last Porsches that defined the company.

I think the "Company" will likely disagree with your views on its definition.

Each model has shaped the "Company". And the 991 is the new definition.

Oh how I love to wake up in the morning to the smell of oil.

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Old 12-08-2011, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mjsporsche View Post
I think the "Company" will likely disagree with your views on its definition.

Each model has shaped the "Company". And the 991 is the new definition.

Oh how I love to wake up in the morning to the smell of oil.

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Mark,
I'm thinking you need a 993 sitting next to that 997 real soon...You could have your coffee in the garage with both of them all winter long.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mjsporsche View Post
I think the "Company" will likely disagree with your views on its definition.

Each model has shaped the "Company". And the 991 is the new definition.

Oh how I love to wake up in the morning to the smell of oil.

Mark
precisely...well except the oil part. I prefer some french roast and bacon, but thats me.

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Mark,
I'm thinking you need a 993 sitting next to that 997 real soon...You could have your coffee in the garage with both of them all winter long.
Bob, I think you need to drive it. The more you drive it, the more you like it. Maybe you'll reconsider. Give paul the keys to the turbo for a few months and beat on the 993 for a bit.

if not, Mark, buy the 993 from bob so I don't.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by utkinpol View Post
Why? Did you want a 993 so bad so you gave up 997.2?
I drove 993 but by all means it is ages behind of what 997.2 can do, even with upgraded suspension.
In many ways you can have more fun in a 993 than what you can in a 997. Same ways you can have more fun in a long hood 911 than in a 993.

For some, it's not all about speed and/or comfort, but the feel & experience.
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