Nice deal for someone..Cheap Twin Turbo
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WOW, this seams like a nice deal for someone looking for a TT. No affiliation, blah, blah, blah
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Twin-...item19c90708c8
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Twin-...item19c90708c8
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Nice find. Reputable dealer, too. Sport seats to boot! There is an issue on the AutoCheck history (title/mileage) that would need to be clarified.
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I could be mistaken but I believe MikeJ was looking at that one and it had sustained water damage and there was a discrepancy with the title, or something to that effect. MikeJ decided to pass, if in fact that was the same car.
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Here was what MikeJ found out about the car and posted in the 993 Turbo forum:
I think it was one bent valve - to do that requires major abuse to the engine, or something broke leaving the valve open. Not sure of the core cause. However, if its because of an over-rev, the rod bolts are known to stretch when really pushed this hard, and that would worry me - since they might get loose several thousand miles after the incident (this may be different for the turbos than the NA cars, not sure).
I have some very coarse pictures, guards red with grey interior, SUV heigh suspension.
The biggest thing for me is the indicators that water got into the tub - replacement of immobilizer and alarm control relays, carpet replacement, etc. While I was not told that directly, there are signs - hence the "fishy" comment.
I am good with a wrench, and am willing to work on a car if the price is right to begin with, but I just did not like how this one is presented to me - there could be more story behind it that we do not know.
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Mike
I think it was one bent valve - to do that requires major abuse to the engine, or something broke leaving the valve open. Not sure of the core cause. However, if its because of an over-rev, the rod bolts are known to stretch when really pushed this hard, and that would worry me - since they might get loose several thousand miles after the incident (this may be different for the turbos than the NA cars, not sure).
I have some very coarse pictures, guards red with grey interior, SUV heigh suspension.
The biggest thing for me is the indicators that water got into the tub - replacement of immobilizer and alarm control relays, carpet replacement, etc. While I was not told that directly, there are signs - hence the "fishy" comment.
I am good with a wrench, and am willing to work on a car if the price is right to begin with, but I just did not like how this one is presented to me - there could be more story behind it that we do not know.
Cheers,
Mike
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There must be a story with this car. RUF are notorious for adding the 'RUF' premium on their vehicles. Def have it checked out thoroughly through an independent mechanic AND bodyshop. I seen some pretty poor resprays on several of their used inventory that they weren't immediately upfront about.
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If this is the same car that Mike describes (and it seems so), that's _really_ misleading description. To a point that I would not even considering purchasing anything from RAC absent some serious explanation here on this.
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You would have thought they would have at least aligned the exhaust tips. Engine lid is also misaligned. RUF certainly have a strange interpretation of the meaning 'immaculate'.
Given all the stories and unknowns, what would people say is a fair market value for the car? I guess the biggest concern is the engine and what might have caused the valve issue. The residual effects could be quite expensive to fix.
Given all the stories and unknowns, what would people say is a fair market value for the car? I guess the biggest concern is the engine and what might have caused the valve issue. The residual effects could be quite expensive to fix.
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I'd say that at $50K any possible engine issues are well figured into the price, especially if the car really has 57K miles as stated.
I'd also say that there is no way in hell that there's nothing else wrong with the car besides that if they price it at $50K and looking for offers. And it's that complete unknown is what would simply make me say "Pass" on this car and, by extension, on anything else from them.
I'd also say that there is no way in hell that there's nothing else wrong with the car besides that if they price it at $50K and looking for offers. And it's that complete unknown is what would simply make me say "Pass" on this car and, by extension, on anything else from them.
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Here's what you do; buy it for $45. Sell the seats for $5K. Now you're into the Turbo for $40. Put a crazy $20 into making it perfect. Now you're at $60. Right about market (below) price for a well sorted out 993 Turbo with those miles. As long as there's no title issues.
Or one of Spartan's friends buys it, and turns it into a track monster!
Or one of Spartan's friends buys it, and turns it into a track monster!
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