tcsracing1

This is very true. However, for the porsche 911 and such cars as the 1960's Mustang fastback, the body lines of the coupes have become icons and thus more desirable then the convertible form.

Same for the 1963 corvette split window coupe. It is the only corvette coupe that commands more money and buyers then the convertible.

Most Ferraris are more desirable in convertible form except for the 65' GTO perhaps.

CalvinC4S

The 993 Targa starts out as a cab, not the coupe.

I like both, it is true that you can find a better deal on a Tiptronic Cab as they seem priced the lowest.
Funny that when new the Tiptronic was an up charge as well as the cabriolet top.

I love Cabriolets and tiptronics, they will never be worth more then (like for like) 6 speed coupes though.
Both those features take from what the 993 is in most peoples eyes, (don't take my word for, run a poll.)

Reason is simple supply and demand.

I hope to some day own both a coupe and cabriolet, sorry.. no tips though

cabrio993

Calvin / Moffat, that's what I learned by watching "Ultimate Factories - Porsche".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNXkq31Nnt0

Body construction portion starts at minute 5 or so. Pay attention to minute 7 where they say that all cars start as a Cab and changed to a Coupe depending on the build of the particular car.

So, at least on the 997's all 911's start life as a Cab.

Maybe it was different for the 993? I haven't heard otherwise.

e9stibi

If you want a Cabrio, buy one. I have both Cabrio and Coupe and it would be a tough choice to depart with one.

Pro Cabrio: More fun to drive with wife
Pro Coupe: More fun to drive and safer on the track (if this is ever a consideration); better looks in particular 4S without basket handle

CalvinC4S

That was for intertainment, there where a lot of coupe only parts on that chassis when "it got the roof"

cabrio993

Where did you see that?

Which parts are these?

CalvinC4S

Quarter panels, A pillars, B pillars unseen structural etc..

cabrio993

That was all added as a whole with the side panels as clearly seen on the video. The body shell is identical to both platforms. Even the windshield frame is clearly the Cab's.

CalvinC4S

Ok, then all crankshafts start out as TT's

cabrio993

If you say so...

CalvinC4S

Well if you think about it it is the same thing you are saying.

You implied that before the roof is welded on they are the same cars, that simply is not true.

cabrio993

Watch the video, it is all clearly shown there. I'm not making it up.

The body starts as a cab. The side panel then gets added with the corresponding B and C Pillar, then the tin top is welded.

It is logical, any car manufacturer, will design all sub-assemblies the same, start with the basic components in the assembly process, and only change those needed as I build that car through the line.

If you want to believe that the Coupe is hand chiseled out of a single piece of metal, then there is nothing that I can say, or show you, that will make you see differently.

CalvinC4S

As I said in that video there are many coupe only parts on the car before it gets the roof.

rear quarter panels, A piller, B piller, C piller....
No provisions for the roll bar etc. etc. etc..

Just because the floor pans are universal, does not mean they all start out as Cabriolets.

I can see how you understood it like that from the video.

"If you want to believe that the Coupe is hand chiseled out of a single piece of metal"
Never said anything about that.. but actually they are honed from granite

Mark in Baltimore

All of this talk about the genesis of cabs and coupes is all well and good, but I'd really love to know if deadhead1960 will address Vic's concerns or whether, as Vic sagely observes, DH will make himself scarce for a few days and then eventually pop up like a Jersey Whack-A-Mole. As of this writing, DH has been on Rennlist numerous times today, the last time being 6:21PM.



This video clip is the triple distilled essence of hilarity.

So, um, DH, please tell the board: are you a car dealer/curbstoner? (I know you're reeeeeading this... )

cabrio993

A pillar is the same as the Cab as you can already see. B pillar, c pillar and rear quarter panel is all one sub-aseembly. Rest of the car is exactly the same.

But wahetever... I give up. It's Easter Sunday after all and I'm enjoying a home- brewed beer.

Oh...and by the way...The Coupe may be built from a solid block of rare granite, but the Cab top is hand stitched on the laps of topless virgin twins.

So...Back to regular programming. Where is DH?