200 cell cats
Racer
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 335
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From: Houston, Tx
Go with Fabspeed, they are quick and always service minded. And if something goes wrong, they will fix it quickly. Even if their products are equal or similar (I believe Fabspeed has better quality), the fact that you get the items shipped the same day you order means a lot, and especially if you need spare parts one day.
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Nordschleife Master
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,471
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From: Tacoma, WA
I'm going to offer another option, that is getting the DACH pipe. The reason you wait for them, is they are made to order, not mass produced. Chris does an AWESOME job on them. The quality is top notch, & he uses very good pipes, cats & flanges.
You realize Fabspeed stole his design, as they started to sell well.
As it's said "all good things are worth the wait"
You realize Fabspeed stole his design, as they started to sell well.
As it's said "all good things are worth the wait"
Race Car
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 3
From: Alabama
More info? Chris (DACH) is a great guy. I currently have Dansk 100 cells, but Chris spent some time helping me previously some something that was of no profit for him. He seems very straightforward and makes what everyone seems to agree is a great product. FS makes some very nice product, but tries to sell them to us like we drive Hondas, with somewhat dubious HP claims. IMHO.
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Joe Kucinski
Race Car
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,883
Likes: 3
From: Wilmington NC
I'm going to offer another option, that is getting the DACH pipe. The reason you wait for them, is they are made to order, not mass produced. Chris does an AWESOME job on them. The quality is top notch, & he uses very good pipes, cats & flanges.
You realize Fabspeed stole his design, as they started to sell well.
As it's said "all good things are worth the wait"
You realize Fabspeed stole his design, as they started to sell well.
As it's said "all good things are worth the wait"
Thank you Sir, very kind of you.
I'm okay with people going with FS. What's the saying "plagiarizing is the highest form of flattery?"
We're not for everyone. Never have been, never will be. If Joe is finally putting out a nice piece, more power (no pun intended!) to him. If we helped better the market's product, I can say we have close to 100 sets all around the world that did that and sleep just fine
Appreciate the kudos though.......
Bart, thanks to you too brother, happy to help.
As a freebie:
you guys need not get hung up with the "cell count". What you need to concern yourselves with, is what is the honeycomb made of (ceramic or stainless) and what is the flow rate of the individual cats. Cell count matters very little from a performance aspect when you get to sport cats. Our motors only put out so many cfm's. The trick is the happy medium between to much flow and not enough filtering (100 cell cats), and enough or more than enough flow yet proper filtering as well as O2 location (200-300 cell cats). At one time, I had a line on much higher cell count "sport" cat (think it was 3 or 400 cell) that flowed what ours do, but decided you guys wouldn't buy a revised product from us and would be to hung up on the cell count number. Since we've never had issues with what we use, stayed the course. No idea what Joe uses (disclaimer)
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Joined: May 2001
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From: Solana Beach, CA
Me too, but....
I installed the Fabspeed 200 cell Cat/Cat by-pass system. The fit and finish were great! Delivery was immediate. The sound with Fister II's is awesome.
Same as above except I put on FD Motorsport Stage I mufflers, awesome.
Customer support from Fabspeed is great....shipped out same day I ordered. I liked the Fabspeed feature that allows me to go to Cat Bypass pipes, substituting straight pipes for the cats.
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Same as above except I put on FD Motorsport Stage I mufflers, awesome.
Customer support from Fabspeed is great....shipped out same day I ordered. I liked the Fabspeed feature that allows me to go to Cat Bypass pipes, substituting straight pipes for the cats.
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 945
Likes: 0
From: NJ
I'm going to offer another option, that is getting the DACH pipe. The reason you wait for them, is they are made to order, not mass produced. Chris does an AWESOME job on them. The quality is top notch, & he uses very good pipes, cats & flanges.
You realize Fabspeed stole his design, as they started to sell well.
As it's said "all good things are worth the wait"
You realize Fabspeed stole his design, as they started to sell well.
As it's said "all good things are worth the wait"
Nordschleife Master
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,471
Likes: 209
From: Tacoma, WA
Thank you Sir, very kind of you.
I'm okay with people going with FS. What's the saying "plagiarizing is the highest form of flattery?"
We're not for everyone. Never have been, never will be. If Joe is finally putting out a nice piece, more power (no pun intended!) to him. If we helped better the market's product, I can say we have close to 100 sets all around the world that did that and sleep just fine
Appreciate the kudos though.......
Bart, thanks to you too brother, happy to help.
As a freebie:
you guys need not get hung up with the "cell count". What you need to concern yourselves with, is what is the honeycomb made of (ceramic or stainless) and what is the flow rate of the individual cats. Cell count matters very little from a performance aspect when you get to sport cats. Our motors only put out so many cfm's. The trick is the happy medium between to much flow and not enough filtering (100 cell cats), and enough or more than enough flow yet proper filtering as well as O2 location (200-300 cell cats). At one time, I had a line on much higher cell count "sport" cat (think it was 3 or 400 cell) that flowed what ours do, but decided you guys wouldn't buy a revised product from us and would be to hung up on the cell count number. Since we've never had issues with what we use, stayed the course. No idea what Joe uses (disclaimer)
I know they do in fact flow more then stock, I had to move things on my bench after installing the cats, when I started the car, it would blow stuff off my bottom shelf!
Have you thought of building a non-linked cross pipe? Like the other FB product, but not half assed.
Race Car
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,883
Likes: 3
From: Wilmington NC
Our pipes already give a 100 HP increase, why change a good thing 
Pro
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 505
Likes: 8
From: Bangkok
From Bangkok, Chris made me some FABolous DACHX pipes, great pipes, great fit, great sound, combined with RSR mufflers, best sounding 993 in the land of smiles. Chris may take some time but hey, the pipes are made for YOU.
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Henk