993Brendan

If Rennlist had a "like" button, I push it right about now...

...7 year member. Love this place!

Leander

I don't mind paying to be a member, but unlike the old days when we appreciated what he was doing and we paid John to run the site, I now have no idea where the money goes, or if they even need it.

ABCar

I view membership like taxes. I am proud to pay my taxes....that pays for the roads I drive my 993 on, and the school my daughter attends. I wish that my tax money gave me as much effecient payback as the $17 per year I spend here. (Please no tax debates or politics...it's just the IDEA of pay for what you get)

and, I do GET from this site...every upgrade...several new freinds...(some "real" and some "virtual" )...but this site has been an important part of my life and I am proud to pay for it...even if it is for someone's profit. More power to them! (I respect profit...again, part of how I got a Porsche!)

TheBen

well said.

Mark in Baltimore

Which is another way of saying that some people excel in justifying their arguments in any way possible.

Sigh.

mrsullivan

I am in a posting mood tonight

The tax analogy doesnt work here. The site is run by a corporation, there are many other companies that are sponsors/advertisers and they benefit from us as we purchase things from them. I am all for this by the way, I love free enterprise. It's a little like paying taxes twice actually, assuming you are buying fair amounts of gear also. Again, I dont personally mind that, because I joined and started paying back when it was John D., and the amount is so trivial that I am not bothered at all by it.

And by the way, if we put rennlist sponsoring companies in charge of taking 30%+ of your income and using it to maintain the public good, they would do an INFINITELY better job than the US government... sorry couldnt help it!

ABCar

I'm just glad I am in the 30% bracket and can afford to pay $17 for a whole lot of greatness. I see your point...I just feel like the law of fair exchange applies here. Whoever gets my money at RL INC. doesn't matter that much. I wish it was someone I knew but in the end I pay a little and get a lot back. If no one payed, RL would not be here.

TheBen

People don't take for granted or care for something they don't pay for...at least in my estimation.

John D.

And like you, as I'm too in the posting mood....

I just wanted to thank you for your post....

Yep, you have the the same view I do - and did - when Jen and I first put up memberships, in, well 1999???

Anyway, it wasn't and still is not about the money...???

It is all about the community...

$17 is - and was then in 1999 - about half a tank of gas.

But it was - and is - a token of appreciation for the community.

That is all it was. And that too - today - is all it is...

Just from my end of the telescope..

John

deadhead1960

I would argue (tongue in cheek of course) that individually your advice adds no value to this site. The value is in the collective responses and the validation we give each other. Therefore if you understand this premise, then you are in fact getting something for nothing. The same argument holds true when people claim that voting is a waste of time and resources, given that your lone vote has no meaning in the outcome of an election. And yet many people do vote. Therefore voting and paying membership dues to a forum that you are an active participant, may not justify itself, however it is the responsible thing to do.

Quadcammer

yes, everybody justifies what they do. The value proposition is different for everyone. I personally feel that I contribute and get it back in return...hence no need for the membership fee.

I disagree to some extent. Yes the collective responses can be extremely valuable. On the other hand, my input, your input, steve weiner's input etc can be individually valuable. If the question is "How do I remove/reinstall 993 injectors" and I/steve/you respond with instructions, that is direct value.

That is where your voting analogy breaks down. My lone input can be tremendously valuable if I possess the knowledge that someone needs. My singular vote is unable to be viewed and influential by itself.

Ed Hughes

You need to re-read post 40.

Mark in Baltimore

It might cost him too much money.

Quadcammer

how so?

Ed Hughes

You keep focusing on individual contributions. The underlying point in deadhead's post identifies that there would be no individual contributions if we didn't have a healthy community.