How much does Tiptronic hurt resale?
03-06-2011, 07:59 PM
#16
Burning Brakes
Excellent post! That sound of shifting the 6 speed with the top down is priceless.
Good decision. When I was in the market for a 993 there was a gorgeous black cab Tiptronic priced to go with very low mileage. I was hoping it will sell fast before I was tempted any more. It did sell fast and I was glad. I could not see myself driving a tip 993. I did find my dream car Cab with very low mileage 6 speeds. I am elated with my car and there is nothing like shifting through the 6 gears with the top down. With me it was not about the price of one versus the other, tip vs shift and cab vs coupe. My dream car always was a cab 6 speed 993. Mine is going to be inherited by one of my grand kids so I do not really care which one is higher price or if it will sell fast. The 993 is the most beautiful Porsches ever made and they are and will be a highly sought collectors car
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1997 993, Cab, 6 speed, Targa Wheels, 40K mi
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1997 993, Cab, 6 speed, Targa Wheels, 40K mi
03-06-2011, 09:08 PM
#18
Racer
Okay to add an alternative opinion. I have a '96 tip and it's the only non-manual Porsche I've owned. I would have preferred a manual but the price and condition of the car were too good to pass on.
Having lived with the car as a daily driver I can honestly say that for me condition far outweighs the tip factor. I enjoy shifting using the wheel buttons and don't regret the purchase at all. For daily driving I just don't miss shifting like I thought I would.
Reality is that changing gears is still under my control. That's key....
Also I have a 930 so I know I can shift when I want to. Maybe there is a subconscious factor at work there I don't know.....
Having lived with the car as a daily driver I can honestly say that for me condition far outweighs the tip factor. I enjoy shifting using the wheel buttons and don't regret the purchase at all. For daily driving I just don't miss shifting like I thought I would.
Reality is that changing gears is still under my control. That's key....
Also I have a 930 so I know I can shift when I want to. Maybe there is a subconscious factor at work there I don't know.....
03-06-2011, 09:52 PM
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Auto trans are not the same as dual clutch manuals
Tiptronic (Porsche), Steptronic (BMW), Slaptronic (etc..) are not PDK (Porsche), SMG/DSG (BMW), DSG (VW)! Dual clutch manuals are much more advance and can shift at speed no human hand/foot coordination can compete.
03-07-2011, 06:03 AM
#20
Good point Ed.
Auto trans are not the same as dual clutch manuals
Tiptronic (Porsche), Steptronic (BMW), Slaptronic (etc..) are not PDK (Porsche), SMG/DSG (BMW), DSG (VW)! Dual clutch manuals are much more advance and can shift at speed no human hand/foot coordination can compete.
Auto trans are not the same as dual clutch manuals
Tiptronic (Porsche), Steptronic (BMW), Slaptronic (etc..) are not PDK (Porsche), SMG/DSG (BMW), DSG (VW)! Dual clutch manuals are much more advance and can shift at speed no human hand/foot coordination can compete.
Love my tip.
03-07-2011, 08:04 AM
#21
I drove a 964 tip in London for 4 years, and boy was I glad it was a tip. Also it was cool to know that Porsche was the innovator of the tip concept and that the 964 was the first.
03-07-2011, 11:07 AM
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Nothing wrong with a tip for convenience, but it is going to be a step backward in the performance dept. If there weren't demand for them, Porsche certainly would not have offered and sold them.
03-07-2011, 01:25 PM
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This post is still going? Buy what you really want. Don't settle for something else.
I bought a tip accidentally. I've posted the story several times. I lived with it for 6 years and defended it when the ignorant berated it unfairly. In my opinion the only shortcomings are it only has 4 ratios and you don't control the lockup. So I just had mine changed to 6 speed with LWF. It is a PITA to drive in traffic so I drive it less. But when I do I enjoy it more. I can't wait to go to the track where I'll have more than two useable gear ratios.
The cost for the transmission swap all in was >$15k. It makes the money I saved by buying a tip in the first place seem insignificant.
I bought a tip accidentally. I've posted the story several times. I lived with it for 6 years and defended it when the ignorant berated it unfairly. In my opinion the only shortcomings are it only has 4 ratios and you don't control the lockup. So I just had mine changed to 6 speed with LWF. It is a PITA to drive in traffic so I drive it less. But when I do I enjoy it more. I can't wait to go to the track where I'll have more than two useable gear ratios.
The cost for the transmission swap all in was >$15k. It makes the money I saved by buying a tip in the first place seem insignificant.
03-07-2011, 01:41 PM
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Anyone else notice that the car is advertised at 29K mileage and the pics clearly show that the odometer has turned over 30K? This is probably nitpicking but, come on!
03-07-2011, 02:19 PM
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Porsche was not the first automobile company to introduce manumatics, the proper term referring to an automatic transmission that allows for driver control of gear selection. Porsche's first model that had this feature was the 1990 964. For sure Honda offered a manumatic in 1999 and possibly someone else did as well.
Secondly, Porsche coined and trademarked the term "tiptronic" however they licensed this name to a couple of other companies including Audi.
Lastly, Porsche was the first company to place the controls of the manumatic (tiptronic) on the steering wheel. This was done so that the driver did not have to take his/her hands off the steering wheel to shift. As per Porsche it is the best/proper way to drive these cars.
03-08-2011, 12:44 PM
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[QUOTE=deadhead1960;8361486]A bit off topic, but since knowledge is power, here goes.
Porsche was not the first automobile company to introduce manumatics, the proper term referring to an automatic transmission that allows for driver control of gear selection. Porsche's first model that had this feature was the 1990 964. For sure Honda offered a manumatic in 1999 and possibly someone else did as well.
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Porsche was not the first automobile company to introduce manumatics, the proper term referring to an automatic transmission that allows for driver control of gear selection. Porsche's first model that had this feature was the 1990 964. For sure Honda offered a manumatic in 1999 and possibly someone else did as well.
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03-08-2011, 01:01 PM
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03-14-2011, 08:50 AM
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Definitely get what you want. While I loved the 6 speed 993 that I owned, I've come to like the tip in my car a lot. A lot more than the color, unfortunately...:-|
03-15-2011, 05:45 PM
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