993 coupe vs cab?
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Don't 356 convertibles sell for more than 356 coupes?
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We will never know where the classic car market will be in 20 + years, however based on what little knowledge we gain from collector cars dating as far back as 1920, one can piece together somewhat of an idea what might be desirable and why....
Probably best to not focus that far out when making a purchase today however....
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To the original poster, if you want a 993 Cab you should get one. You're leaning towards it, so drive a few and decide for yourself.
For me, especially living in a very cold climate area 3-4 months out of the year, the coupe is best. No vandals or drunk kids on a dare can slash my roof, throw a whole coke with ice in the open cab top as I'm stopped at a store, my top can't wear out and cost me a small fortune to replace or fix, and in a rollover I bet I'm safer in my coupe. I don't like to be exposed to the world when I drive anyway so a coupe is a natural for me. I like the privacy of a coupe, and I can hear phone calls much better in a coupe. Plus, I like the looks much more.
I used to drive my wife's Jag convertible sometimes (talk about a wife's car!) and while it was fun for a little while in it I would NEVER want a car like that or any convertible for a daily driver or car of my own. I'm just not a cab guy. It's too showy for me personally. I like to be a bit more incognito.
So... you're heart is set on it. Drive a bunch of each and report back!
For me, especially living in a very cold climate area 3-4 months out of the year, the coupe is best. No vandals or drunk kids on a dare can slash my roof, throw a whole coke with ice in the open cab top as I'm stopped at a store, my top can't wear out and cost me a small fortune to replace or fix, and in a rollover I bet I'm safer in my coupe. I don't like to be exposed to the world when I drive anyway so a coupe is a natural for me. I like the privacy of a coupe, and I can hear phone calls much better in a coupe. Plus, I like the looks much more.
I used to drive my wife's Jag convertible sometimes (talk about a wife's car!) and while it was fun for a little while in it I would NEVER want a car like that or any convertible for a daily driver or car of my own. I'm just not a cab guy. It's too showy for me personally. I like to be a bit more incognito.
So... you're heart is set on it. Drive a bunch of each and report back!
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To the original poster, if you want a 993 Cab you should get one. You're leaning towards it, so drive a few and decide for yourself.
For me, especially living in a very cold climate area 3-4 months out of the year, the coupe is best. No vandals or drunk kids on a dare can slash my roof, throw a whole coke with ice in the open cab top as I'm stopped at a store, my top can't wear out and cost me a small fortune to replace or fix, and in a rollover I bet I'm safer in my coupe. I don't like to be exposed to the world when I drive anyway so a coupe is a natural for me. I like the privacy of a coupe, and I can hear phone calls much better in a coupe. Plus, I like the looks much more.
I used to drive my wife's Jag convertible sometimes (talk about a wife's car!) and while it was fun for a little while in it I would NEVER want a car like that or any convertible for a daily driver or car of my own. I'm just not a cab guy. It's too showy for me personally. I like to be a bit more incognito.
So... you're heart is set on it. Drive a bunch of each and report back!
For me, especially living in a very cold climate area 3-4 months out of the year, the coupe is best. No vandals or drunk kids on a dare can slash my roof, throw a whole coke with ice in the open cab top as I'm stopped at a store, my top can't wear out and cost me a small fortune to replace or fix, and in a rollover I bet I'm safer in my coupe. I don't like to be exposed to the world when I drive anyway so a coupe is a natural for me. I like the privacy of a coupe, and I can hear phone calls much better in a coupe. Plus, I like the looks much more.
I used to drive my wife's Jag convertible sometimes (talk about a wife's car!) and while it was fun for a little while in it I would NEVER want a car like that or any convertible for a daily driver or car of my own. I'm just not a cab guy. It's too showy for me personally. I like to be a bit more incognito.
So... you're heart is set on it. Drive a bunch of each and report back!
Indeed for OP.
If you are a convertible driver, then get the convertible. Do not go for the coupe just because a few people say it is the cool thing to do.
If you could swing it, keep both!
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My first two 993s were Coupes, but since I buy my Porsches for fun factor I decided to switch to a Cab. I couldn't be happier!
So long as it's above 40 degrees the top comes down. When it's that cold I wear down jacket and scarf and crank the heat. Only thing that keeps the top up is rain, which we get plenty of where I live.
So long as it's above 40 degrees the top comes down. When it's that cold I wear down jacket and scarf and crank the heat. Only thing that keeps the top up is rain, which we get plenty of where I live.
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As far as current consumer book values, which are all over the map, as usual, they show the following retail values for identical no options 30k miles 6-speed 97 narrowbody 993s:
KBB:
97 C2 coupe $45,640
97 C2 cabriolet $52,850
(Don't we all wish.)
Edmunds:
97 C2 coupe $32,225
97 C2 cabriolet $34,050
NADA:
97 C2 coupe: $26,775
97 C2 cabriolet: $28,475
The slight spread between the cars in favor of the cabriolet has been consistent for years, and is probably largely due to the fact that the cabriolet has always stickered for substantially more than a coupe, period, just as a C4 will typically show a slightly higher book value than a C2 for the same reason, and why a C4S is worth more than a C2S, even if the C2S is rarer.
I suspect the CPI book would show a similar bump for a cabriolet over the coupe. I know it did in the past. I suspect your insurance agent on a settlement would show the same, since they use book values as well (and will try to feed you NADA value unless you contest it). I further suspect that at any high-line pro dealer, given completely identical cars in completely identical condition, color and option level, the same would be true, as their numbers are not pulled out of thin air, most of them use the CPI value to base their numbers on.
This is really the only way to get any sort of assessment of "coupe vs. cabriolet" values, because no two cars are alike. You can't judge a Mannheim number on two 993s in the same auction because of condition, history, number of owners, original paint, records, regional or individual desirability to the brokers or bidders, mileage, etc.
Nor can you judge a car being worth more and/or easier to sell based on a buyer's pool of coupe buyers vs. cabriolet buyers.
But to flat out say "a coupe is always worth more than a cab" is incorrect. Coupe A may be worth more than cabriolet B, but not based on the book value.
Amen, bruddah.
KBB:
97 C2 coupe $45,640
97 C2 cabriolet $52,850
(Don't we all wish.)
Edmunds:
97 C2 coupe $32,225
97 C2 cabriolet $34,050
NADA:
97 C2 coupe: $26,775
97 C2 cabriolet: $28,475
The slight spread between the cars in favor of the cabriolet has been consistent for years, and is probably largely due to the fact that the cabriolet has always stickered for substantially more than a coupe, period, just as a C4 will typically show a slightly higher book value than a C2 for the same reason, and why a C4S is worth more than a C2S, even if the C2S is rarer.
I suspect the CPI book would show a similar bump for a cabriolet over the coupe. I know it did in the past. I suspect your insurance agent on a settlement would show the same, since they use book values as well (and will try to feed you NADA value unless you contest it). I further suspect that at any high-line pro dealer, given completely identical cars in completely identical condition, color and option level, the same would be true, as their numbers are not pulled out of thin air, most of them use the CPI value to base their numbers on.
This is really the only way to get any sort of assessment of "coupe vs. cabriolet" values, because no two cars are alike. You can't judge a Mannheim number on two 993s in the same auction because of condition, history, number of owners, original paint, records, regional or individual desirability to the brokers or bidders, mileage, etc.
Nor can you judge a car being worth more and/or easier to sell based on a buyer's pool of coupe buyers vs. cabriolet buyers.
But to flat out say "a coupe is always worth more than a cab" is incorrect. Coupe A may be worth more than cabriolet B, but not based on the book value.
Amen, bruddah.
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Wifey wanted a 993 CAB so said yes dear and got one.
I am happy I did but I love in SoCal. There is something about driving down PCH in the late afternoon with the top down.![bowdown](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bowdown.gif)
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I just need to get a coupe as well.
I am happy I did but I love in SoCal. There is something about driving down PCH in the late afternoon with the top down.
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I just need to get a coupe as well.
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[QUOTE=deadhead1960;8356725]You are not "the market" and therefore your individual preference does not impact overall pricing.
Pricing plays a role in everything we buy. However with respect to 993's, there is a clear correlation between demand and price. You just proved your own point by [correctly] agreeing that the market population for a coupe is higher than others (cabs). So what happens; prices go up because the supply is fixed.
Well, with this buyer (me) I found a company with a beautiful 993 cab that will swap it for my 997. Giddy up. Time for some drama. The wife never liked the 997 never mind the 993. So who cares?
Pricing plays a role in everything we buy. However with respect to 993's, there is a clear correlation between demand and price. You just proved your own point by [correctly] agreeing that the market population for a coupe is higher than others (cabs). So what happens; prices go up because the supply is fixed.
Well, with this buyer (me) I found a company with a beautiful 993 cab that will swap it for my 997. Giddy up. Time for some drama. The wife never liked the 997 never mind the 993. So who cares?
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