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Old 05-26-2010, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by David in LA
Consider yourself a lucky one. Anyone who searches will see posts and pics from 8-9 years ago when EJ was pushing to get Porsche to acknowledge the problem and issue a recall/TSB. There were some scary pics...and the harness from my MY93 was also in pretty bad shape and the car was shorting/running rough, especially in heavy rains.
Yep....this is what made me wanting to change it myself.

Old 05-26-2010, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by axl911
Yep....this is what made me wanting to change it myself.

Yep...there should be a link to this pic for the other thread where someone asked whether a fire extinguisher is needed.
Old 05-26-2010, 07:12 AM
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I had the same discovery on my 95 cab some weeks ago... luckily the harness lasted 15 years until that point in time. Not cheap to replace either.
Old 05-26-2010, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Priceless
I purchased my 1st porsche 2 weeks ago. It is a 1996 993 with 32,000 miles. I purchased it from a local colleague (doctor). he was the 3rd owner and bought it in 2002. Do you know if the 1996 had harness problems also? I guess I should ask him if he knows if this had been changed. thanks in advance. BTW, I LUV MY NEW CAR/MISTRESS :-)

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Call a dealer or Porsche customer service. They will look up the VIN and see if they paid to have it replaced. It would be part of the service record. If not set up appointment with dealer to have the recall done. They want to see the car before they order a new harness. If a previous owner did the work, Porsche wouldn't "know" about it.
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Originally Posted by ToniPalermo
I had the same discovery on my 95 cab some weeks ago... luckily the harness lasted 15 years until that point in time. Not cheap to replace either.
It should have been free. I had mine done last fall as part of the recall.
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LUCAS smoke?

Does everyone kn ow why the English drink warm beer?

























The have Lucas refrigerators!
Old 05-26-2010, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by black ice
Okay, you got me. what is Lucas smoke????


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Not available in California.

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Doe anybody know what the recall bulletin number was for this?
Old 05-27-2010, 01:21 AM
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Thanks for the connecting post re my question about needing extinguishers! Man that is ugly. I was told the harness problem was strictly limited to the 95's. Is that NOT true?
Old 05-27-2010, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBen
Doe anybody know what the recall bulletin number was for this?
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...g-harness.html
Old 05-27-2010, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pcarhombre
Thanks for the connecting post re my question about needing extinguishers! Man that is ugly. I was told the harness problem was strictly limited to the 95's. Is that NOT true?
AFAIK its an issue with 95s and some 96s in the U.S. and with 94s and 95s in RoW. There is also an issue that there was some confusion over the part numbers of the new part vs. old and IIRC a handful of repairs that wound up using the old part number.

I also did not mean to imply that the 928s had a wiring harness problem. Generally fires happen in cars more often then the manufacturers let on, only if it gets seriously bad do they issue a recall or announcement. The 993 wire harness was a know issue among Porsche mechanics for many years, and it took the effort of rennlister EJ and others for Porsche to finally admit the issue. Other Porsches have had issues with gas lines and power steering fluid, and there have been a few posts reporting electrical shorts and fires. Also don't forget the possibility of aftermarket electronics shorting out.
Old 05-27-2010, 10:47 AM
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How can I find out if this was taken care of on my '95?
I just bought the car this month and don't have a full set of records.
Old 05-27-2010, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fünfer
How can I find out if this was taken care of on my '95?
I just bought the car this month and don't have a full set of records.
Call your dealer with your VIN and ask or call 1.800.Porsche and ask them. They'll have the records.



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