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Old 03-01-2010 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Parnelli
what exactly does 'turbos spooling' mean?
Coming on boost. Spooling = spinning. Spinning turbines (or turbos spooling) = boost.
Old 03-01-2010 | 09:23 PM
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Thanks for the link, that is very sad, and as someone else mentioned it, I feel terrible for the families.
Old 03-01-2010 | 09:30 PM
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A tragedy for anyone to lose his life. Lets keep the family and friends in our thoughts.
Old 03-01-2010 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cgfen
looks like the truck only suffered minor damage to it's "'roo bar".

be safe

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Agreed ... the Roo Bar probably did the majority of the damage to the Porsche ...



Old 03-01-2010 | 11:29 PM
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We're assuming driver error and or negligence, but could the dodgy suspension that was being checked-out have contributed to this accident?
Old 03-01-2010 | 11:45 PM
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Tens (hudreds? thousands?) of people cross into oncoming lanes EVERY day. Many lose their lives. Other than the fact that this was a fast car, and without facts, no point in speculating about the cause of what, unfortunately, occurs each and every day.

And BTW, in a truck vs. car duel, it's never pretty.

There was a local recent case of a small car (honda?) in which the driver was sandwiched between 2 rigs. At fairly low speed, I would est. (20/30 mph). The impact and mass of the truck turned the car into a recycling cube. Driver actually survived, but a true miracle.

Very sad. Be safe.

Old 03-02-2010 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by trophy
Stupidity can turn any vehicle into a widow maker, I think it is a term that is not worthy or warranted in describing a GT2. Any car that has the performance potential of a GT2 deserves a level of respect, that may or may not have been afforded in this case.

I pitty the poor families that are now with out fathers, husbands, brothers or sons, they are truly the vistims here.
Thank you for saying that...101% agreed!!! Widow maker my ***.
Old 03-02-2010 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by slownrusty
Thank you for saying that...101% agreed!!! Widow maker my ***.
I have to respectfully disagree. A stock 996 GT2 is well known for being a particularly evil/ tricky car even among its rivals (Z06, Viper, etc). One of our local accomplished AX drivers owned one for a week and he managed to do a donuts in the middle of a multi-lane highway while trying to accelerate in a straight line. He traded it in on a 997 GT3 and says that the 7GT3 is like driving a (insert low powered easy to drive vehicle here) in comparison.

While I am sure damp, especially inconsistently damp, roads were the primary factor assuming these guys weren't going at ridiculous speeds. I can't but help believe that unless that they were very used to the particular respect required of a 996 GT2 (996s have no nanny aids), that the car is partly to blame.
Old 03-02-2010 | 12:53 AM
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They were "Test Driving?" I wonder how the owner of the car feels.......
Old 03-02-2010 | 01:35 AM
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Sad to see.
Old 03-02-2010 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Evan Fullerton
I have to respectfully disagree. A stock 996 GT2 is well known for being a particularly evil/ tricky car even among its rivals (Z06, Viper, etc). One of our local accomplished AX drivers owned one for a week and he managed to do a donuts in the middle of a multi-lane highway while trying to accelerate in a straight line. He traded it in on a 997 GT3 and says that the 7GT3 is like driving a (insert low powered easy to drive vehicle here) in comparison.

While I am sure damp, especially inconsistently damp, roads were the primary factor assuming these guys weren't going at ridiculous speeds. I can't but help believe that unless that they were very used to the particular respect required of a 996 GT2 (996s have no nanny aids), that the car is partly to blame.
+1. The "Widow Maker" title is well deserved. The 6GT2 is a particularly twitchy 911 and is known to have its *** snap with little notice. Add water, potential suspension issues and a nearby truck and it doesn't take speed or irresponsible driving to have this happen.
Old 03-02-2010 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Evan Fullerton
I have to respectfully disagree. A stock 996 GT2 is well known for being a particularly evil/ tricky car even among its rivals (Z06, Viper, etc). One of our local accomplished AX drivers owned one for a week and he managed to do a donuts in the middle of a multi-lane highway while trying to accelerate in a straight line. He traded it in on a 997 GT3 and says that the 7GT3 is like driving a (insert low powered easy to drive vehicle here) in comparison.

While I am sure damp, especially inconsistently damp, roads were the primary factor assuming these guys weren't going at ridiculous speeds. I can't but help believe that unless that they were very used to the particular respect required of a 996 GT2 (996s have no nanny aids), that the car is partly to blame.
+2 I drive the version with nanny aids PSM/TC and the lights are flickering all the time, I would be scared of a 6GT2.....
Old 03-02-2010 | 09:32 AM
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The cage/roll bar seems to be as bent as the rest of the car....
Is it a racing spec or just an ornament?
Old 03-02-2010 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Avid Fan
+1. The "Widow Maker" title is well deserved. The 6GT2 is a particularly twitchy 911 and is known to have its *** snap with little notice. Add water, potential suspension issues and a nearby truck and it doesn't take speed or irresponsible driving to have this happen.
Any powerful car or any car for that matter can be labelled "widow maker" or "son killer"..."brother killer"...this is a classic case of a couple of guys who took a customer's car out, they did NOT know their limits of drivers, they did NOT know the car's ability to accelerate and handling characteristics. Notice the owner of the car is alive and well..its the joy riders who are not. Sorry to sound insensitive but you will get burnt if you play with fire.
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Old 03-02-2010 | 12:15 PM
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Who here has owned a GT2? Or driven one extensively? Me either. What I can say is that with my experience in plain ol' torsion bar 930's, what we did with them in the '80's and '90's, a GT2 has to be a completely civilized car. I never had a problem with a customer 930 back then, and we were still limited to CIS and single turbo setups with iffy gearing in the 4 speed box on 245-16 rear tires. Hammering on these ~400HP car with peaky power delivery never seemed to be an issue. And I was 25 and about as aggressive as it got.

Simple fact here is that this happened on the street. There are too many variables to even consider where this simple test drive turned into a tragedy. I can be damn sure in my mind the car wasn't to blame.


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