The Widow Maker - drive safe
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Tens (hudreds? thousands?) of people cross into oncoming lanes EVERY day. Many lose their lives. Other than the fact that this was a fast car, and without facts, no point in speculating about the cause of what, unfortunately, occurs each and every day.
And BTW, in a truck vs. car duel, it's never pretty.
There was a local recent case of a small car (honda?) in which the driver was sandwiched between 2 rigs. At fairly low speed, I would est. (20/30 mph). The impact and mass of the truck turned the car into a recycling cube. Driver actually survived, but a true miracle.
Very sad. Be safe.
And BTW, in a truck vs. car duel, it's never pretty.
There was a local recent case of a small car (honda?) in which the driver was sandwiched between 2 rigs. At fairly low speed, I would est. (20/30 mph). The impact and mass of the truck turned the car into a recycling cube. Driver actually survived, but a true miracle.
Very sad. Be safe.
#22
Stupidity can turn any vehicle into a widow maker, I think it is a term that is not worthy or warranted in describing a GT2. Any car that has the performance potential of a GT2 deserves a level of respect, that may or may not have been afforded in this case.
I pitty the poor families that are now with out fathers, husbands, brothers or sons, they are truly the vistims here.
I pitty the poor families that are now with out fathers, husbands, brothers or sons, they are truly the vistims here.
#23
I have to respectfully disagree. A stock 996 GT2 is well known for being a particularly evil/ tricky car even among its rivals (Z06, Viper, etc). One of our local accomplished AX drivers owned one for a week and he managed to do a donuts in the middle of a multi-lane highway while trying to accelerate in a straight line. He traded it in on a 997 GT3 and says that the 7GT3 is like driving a (insert low powered easy to drive vehicle here) in comparison.
While I am sure damp, especially inconsistently damp, roads were the primary factor assuming these guys weren't going at ridiculous speeds. I can't but help believe that unless that they were very used to the particular respect required of a 996 GT2 (996s have no nanny aids), that the car is partly to blame.
While I am sure damp, especially inconsistently damp, roads were the primary factor assuming these guys weren't going at ridiculous speeds. I can't but help believe that unless that they were very used to the particular respect required of a 996 GT2 (996s have no nanny aids), that the car is partly to blame.
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I have to respectfully disagree. A stock 996 GT2 is well known for being a particularly evil/ tricky car even among its rivals (Z06, Viper, etc). One of our local accomplished AX drivers owned one for a week and he managed to do a donuts in the middle of a multi-lane highway while trying to accelerate in a straight line. He traded it in on a 997 GT3 and says that the 7GT3 is like driving a (insert low powered easy to drive vehicle here) in comparison.
While I am sure damp, especially inconsistently damp, roads were the primary factor assuming these guys weren't going at ridiculous speeds. I can't but help believe that unless that they were very used to the particular respect required of a 996 GT2 (996s have no nanny aids), that the car is partly to blame.
While I am sure damp, especially inconsistently damp, roads were the primary factor assuming these guys weren't going at ridiculous speeds. I can't but help believe that unless that they were very used to the particular respect required of a 996 GT2 (996s have no nanny aids), that the car is partly to blame.
#27
I have to respectfully disagree. A stock 996 GT2 is well known for being a particularly evil/ tricky car even among its rivals (Z06, Viper, etc). One of our local accomplished AX drivers owned one for a week and he managed to do a donuts in the middle of a multi-lane highway while trying to accelerate in a straight line. He traded it in on a 997 GT3 and says that the 7GT3 is like driving a (insert low powered easy to drive vehicle here) in comparison.
While I am sure damp, especially inconsistently damp, roads were the primary factor assuming these guys weren't going at ridiculous speeds. I can't but help believe that unless that they were very used to the particular respect required of a 996 GT2 (996s have no nanny aids), that the car is partly to blame.
While I am sure damp, especially inconsistently damp, roads were the primary factor assuming these guys weren't going at ridiculous speeds. I can't but help believe that unless that they were very used to the particular respect required of a 996 GT2 (996s have no nanny aids), that the car is partly to blame.
#29
Yasin
#30
Who here has owned a GT2? Or driven one extensively? Me either. What I can say is that with my experience in plain ol' torsion bar 930's, what we did with them in the '80's and '90's, a GT2 has to be a completely civilized car. I never had a problem with a customer 930 back then, and we were still limited to CIS and single turbo setups with iffy gearing in the 4 speed box on 245-16 rear tires. Hammering on these ~400HP car with peaky power delivery never seemed to be an issue. And I was 25 and about as aggressive as it got.
Simple fact here is that this happened on the street. There are too many variables to even consider where this simple test drive turned into a tragedy. I can be damn sure in my mind the car wasn't to blame.
Simple fact here is that this happened on the street. There are too many variables to even consider where this simple test drive turned into a tragedy. I can be damn sure in my mind the car wasn't to blame.