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Old 01-15-2010, 09:12 AM
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I have Koni yellows on the 968 and they are great. Looks lie they have finally decided to let the 964/993 guys in on the action. Adjustability that's a lot cheaper than PSSwhatevers.

http://www.paragon-products.com/Sear...arch=KONI+993+
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Great find. Thanks for sharing.
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This sounds like a great alternative. Hopefully someone will try them and report back soon. I am looking to lower my car and firm it up a bit, nothing too extreme. I am thinking these adjustable Konis with ROW M033 springs may be just the ticket.
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These sound great, and look at that price! Someone here needs to do this!!
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Bart:

Would you have any idea, based on your experience with the 968, how the ride resulting from the Yellows / M033 combination would compare to that with stock springs with fresh Monroe's?

I want to go to ROW height, with ride quality the same as stock. My car is street only.

TIA.
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Originally Posted by bart1 View Post
Adjustability that's a lot cheaper than PSSwhatevers.

http://www.paragon-products.com/Sear...arch=KONI+993+
These dont look to be adjustable -- essentially Koni has marketed a [piston] speed sensitive damping system. Nothing new but I would be interested in at least Dynoing these dampers.
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Here's a review on Bimmerfest that is interesting reading:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...&highlight=fsd
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The Koni Sport Yellow units are externally adjustable for rebound on the front and rear.
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Ok, perhaps you were speaking of the FSD...that's correct, they are a different animal...but a really cool animal! We just had an online Koni Dealer meeting and McLaren F1 will once again run Koni's with FSD technology for 2010.
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I had the Koni FSD shocks on both of my 964 cars and they are adjustable. I liked them quite a bit, They can be very stiff or super soft.
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I think you may be thinking of the Sport Yellows which have been (somewhat) available for the 964 for a while. The FSD units were just released and they're not user adjustable.
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I will also give huge props to Jason! Great guy and has always been extremely helpful when I called. And orders from them are like clockwork - in 2 days they are at my house.

Rinty - I would guess on thier softest setting, they would probably approach the "softness" of the factory shocks. I would bet that your stock shocks are blown and you would like this upgrade, even if a bit stiffer.
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Originally Posted by Jason @ Paragon Products View Post
I think you may be thinking of the Sport Yellows which have been (somewhat) available for the 964 for a while. The FSD units were just released and they're not user adjustable.
I guess that's what I had. The fronts were actually inserts. And yeah, somewhat available sounds right since 9 out of 10 stores don't carry them. Thanks for the clarification.
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At one point in time Koni made the the complete front strut for the 964...then they introduced the 8641-1365 Sport "cut the strut" inserts that you had. The rears became problematic then too. These new applications should make things much better as they are complete struts again.
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It would be interesting to hear about ride quality. The concern I had with the HDs was the complaints over harsh dampening (or whatever your call it) so I spent the extra $700 for the PSS10s. I have no regrets. A less expensive option other than the factory stuff would be great.
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