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Before long people will be putting 'fake' or 'dead' license plates on their cars in these areas where speeding cameras are numerous.. Since some agency's cops can't be bothered with traffic enforcement anymore there is little chance of getting caught and even if someone gets caught, so what? A fine that probably is cheaper than a few tickets. Keeping the good registered plate somewhere in the car and the officer will see that you are legal but not properly displaying the plate. Every state has it's own traffic laws but in FL, where I spent my entire 25 year career in law enforcement, it is just a non-moving violation with a small fine. If the law has changed since I retired in '02 then someone can correct me. I have a feeling the speed camera states have made the 'improper display of a plate' more serious now but I don't know. I don't like to advocate or even suggest law breaking even for non-moving violations (it goes against every fiber in my being) but I'll be damned if anyone should pay for a 61 in a 55 speeding ticket when the only purpose is to raise money for the local government. Now if you are doing 6 mph in a school zone when kids are present that is a different issue and the concern isn't raising money. My agency had a 13 mph minimum (example: 43 in a 30 or 58 in a 45) before they wanted you to write citations. Warnings would suffice for less unless other violations were noted like improper equipment or non-valid driver's licenses, etc... Of course it depended on the circumstance too, like weather, traffic, etc.. Any traffic violation ticket or warning was always at an officer's discretion and made to 'educate' the motoring public. This premise has somehow been lost in order to raise revenue.
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The People's Republic of California has been moving more and more toward these revenue-generating schemes to "fix" its collective stupidity. The only thing that makes me more angry about our bonehead legislators are the bonehead voters who allow even more ridiculous mandates to come down from on high. Lived here all my life and I love the weather, landscape, family, and friends. The politics/culture leave much to be desired; this new scheme is just the latest incarnation of more intrusion from Big Government (and don't get me started on the Feds...).
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The People's Republic of California has been moving more and more toward these revenue-generating schemes to "fix" its collective stupidity. The only thing that makes me more angry about our bonehead legislators are the bonehead voters who allow even more ridiculous mandates to come down from on high.
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Hi Jon,
Sorry to disagree with you, friend. But it isn't Prop13's fault (property taxes cap for you non Ca's) that we're in a mess. It is not a revenue problem; it is a spending problem.
Everyone wants great schools, yes, but "paying for" good public education is not what CA is doing ...this I know for a fact being in educ for a couple of decades now. Ca is spending, to be sure, but they're not "buying" good education.
"Public services" ...yes, but which services and whom do they serve? These are questions that need to be asked and addressed. The answer was, is not, nor will ever be raise more money to throw at problem. Nor should the home owner be asked to foot an even greater part of the bill ...last time I checked, working hard to earn your own home should not come with a penalty of add'l taxes just because you are a home owner. I suppose we'll just agree to disagree here.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Sorry to disagree with you, friend. But it isn't Prop13's fault (property taxes cap for you non Ca's) that we're in a mess. It is not a revenue problem; it is a spending problem.
Everyone wants great schools, yes, but "paying for" good public education is not what CA is doing ...this I know for a fact being in educ for a couple of decades now. Ca is spending, to be sure, but they're not "buying" good education.
"Public services" ...yes, but which services and whom do they serve? These are questions that need to be asked and addressed. The answer was, is not, nor will ever be raise more money to throw at problem. Nor should the home owner be asked to foot an even greater part of the bill ...last time I checked, working hard to earn your own home should not come with a penalty of add'l taxes just because you are a home owner. I suppose we'll just agree to disagree here.
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Hi Jon,
Sorry to disagree with you, friend. But it isn't Prop13's fault (property taxes cap for you non Ca's) that we're in a mess. It is not a revenue problem; it is a spending problem.
Everyone wants great schools, yes, but "paying for" good public education is not what CA is doing ...this I know for a fact being in educ for a couple of decades now. Ca is spending, to be sure, but they're not "buying" good education.
"Public services" ...yes, but which services and whom do they serve? These are questions that need to be asked and addressed. The answer was, is not, nor will ever be raise more money to throw at problem. Nor should the home owner be asked to foot an even greater part of the bill ...last time I checked, working hard to earn your own home should not come with a penalty of add'l taxes just because you are a home owner. I suppose we'll just agree to disagree here.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Sorry to disagree with you, friend. But it isn't Prop13's fault (property taxes cap for you non Ca's) that we're in a mess. It is not a revenue problem; it is a spending problem.
Everyone wants great schools, yes, but "paying for" good public education is not what CA is doing ...this I know for a fact being in educ for a couple of decades now. Ca is spending, to be sure, but they're not "buying" good education.
"Public services" ...yes, but which services and whom do they serve? These are questions that need to be asked and addressed. The answer was, is not, nor will ever be raise more money to throw at problem. Nor should the home owner be asked to foot an even greater part of the bill ...last time I checked, working hard to earn your own home should not come with a penalty of add'l taxes just because you are a home owner. I suppose we'll just agree to disagree here.
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California and thei power thirsty politicians keep spending and catering to the huge sector of the population that doesn't pay taxes. Typical California politics, win political power by entitlements and giveaways, and then blame the ones who pay taxes because they don't want to pay more. I wonder what the govt is planning to do when they tax 100% (I guess they will give you money and take it back as a tax)
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I recently got a ticket outside of Flagstaff, AZ for 65 in a 55. Not a speeding ticket - the infraction was "Waste of Finite Resources"
. Supposedly not a moving violation and 1/3 the fee. I just said "thank you"
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Sounds more like they caught you pouring water out the window (a finite resource in this and most western states) and not speeding. I suppose burning fossil fuel is considered wasting a finite resource also.
Welcome to Arizona. Be glad you got a nice trooper.
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66mph would have gotten you a $187.00 ticket and points off your license.
If you had been clocked at 71mph (16 over) you could have been handcuffed, car towed and charged with "criminal speeding". This is at the discretion of the arresting officer.
We've incorporated fixed and mobile speed cameras, purchased the best laser speed guns, and more unmarked patrol cars for the sole purpose of generating revenue.
This has become a very unfriendly state towards speeding since Janet Napalitono (Now HSA **** /Czar) was Governor.
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You're lucky.
66mph would have gotten you a $187.00 ticket and points off your license.
If you had been clocked at 71mph (16 over) you could have been handcuffed, car towed and charged with "criminal speeding". This is at the discretion of the arresting officer.
We've incorporated fixed and mobile speed cameras, purchased the best laser speed guns, and more unmarked patrol cars for the sole purpose of generating revenue.
This has become a very unfriendly state towards speeding since Janet Napalitono (Now HSA **** /Czar) was Governor.
66mph would have gotten you a $187.00 ticket and points off your license.
If you had been clocked at 71mph (16 over) you could have been handcuffed, car towed and charged with "criminal speeding". This is at the discretion of the arresting officer.
We've incorporated fixed and mobile speed cameras, purchased the best laser speed guns, and more unmarked patrol cars for the sole purpose of generating revenue.
This has become a very unfriendly state towards speeding since Janet Napalitono (Now HSA **** /Czar) was Governor.
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We've incorporated fixed and mobile speed cameras, purchased the best laser speed guns, and more unmarked patrol cars for the sole purpose of generating revenue.
This has become a very unfriendly state towards speeding since Janet Napalitono (Now HSA **** /Czar) was Governor.
This has become a very unfriendly state towards speeding since Janet Napalitono (Now HSA **** /Czar) was Governor.