Keadog

I agree about the tail unless it is functional. Would not stop me from owning that fabulous TT power curve. That fake tail on the aerokit II drove me crazy knowing it covered "only" 282hp and not the real deal (or I would have never sold it).
Thanks for the advice. I figure I have a couple months to look. Several nice looking TTs on the market right now, still a little more than I'm willing to pay for a 13+ year old car that I plan to drive, not park and hope it goes up in value. If you take the time to check dealer inventories, there's a scary big number of unsold '09 911s (and a boatload of cabs, which I don't even count) and '10 GT3s across the country - they'll have to try to move them at some point in what can best be described as a soft economy.
I have to admit, I'm having a lot of fun looking around and will be a little sad when I pick one, at least until the weather gets nice (it's about 10 with ice and snow on the roads here, so it's all Tundra and A6 for now anyhow)...

Keadog

Edward, you are absolutely correct. I'm not sure exactly what I want but I do know: 1. It's going to be driven a lot in nice weather and not parked like a Tnote, hoping it goes up in value and not be driven for fear of getting a dent. 2. I'm too old and slow for a track car, plus my job keeps me busy lots of weekends (although I'm pretty close to Mid-Ohio). 3. Agree it's a great site and thanks to all for the thoughtful advice. 4. Would love another 993 but there is the draw of "new" - that's going to be a best value for dollar decision that I won't be able to make until I buy. It does seem like 993s may have bottomed in price, at least the older NB cars. Time will tell.
Thanks again.

Chuck W.

I just bought a 993 Turbo in November. I could have bought a 2010 GT3, funding was not an issue. However, I won't be tracking the car and the 2010 GT3 and the 993tt are just two differant cars. I wanted the air cooled old school Porsche.... with lots of power!

grwoolf

+1.

I do wish the C2S had more power, but I just couldn't get past the look of the turbo wing and also prefer a naturally aspirated engine. Don't get me wrong, the 993TT is a beautiful car, but I think the wide body without the wing is a better / more classic looking 911.

I just wish the factory had put NA 3.8's and close ratio transmissions in the wide bodies (to go with the pretty sheet metal).

Edward

Hi keadog,

I don't know, friend ...you've either mentioned or alluded to "value" at least twice now. That tells me a new car is the absolute worst thing you can do. You're no dope; you know what depreciation will be on even the best deal you can muster on a new 997. Don't get me wrong, if it's a 997 you want, then great, as it's a superb car offering the best of modern amenities wrapped around a core of 911-engineering heritage and racing gusto. But "value" is not any new car's strong suit.

Consider any 993 and, as you already noted, the value just may be in the trough there ...say it with me "great deals to be had." Nor is a 993 "slow" or "lacking" by any stretch. Ignore 0-60 times and magazine bragging rights ...get a 993 up to speed and she is a fast, very capable car. Period. You owned a C2S, right? If you felt she was a slow car then may I respectfully suggest you live closer to the redline

Or a 993TT, which sounds like you may be headed in that direction (if I can hear your tone through the text ). A 993TT is arguably a value leader, not only holding its value in the past few years I've been paying attention, but also has the "Porsche Turbo" allure that almost guarantees it a special place in history, and by consequence a niche in the marketplace. None of which means squat if you aren't in love with the car you own, though. And there's the key: which one are you going to feel like "you've arrived" in? That's the car you want ...IMHO, anyway.


Edward

matt777

I think that is true of 993s in general. Just take a look at the 996 depreciation rates which is just a sign of a mass produced car with fair looks at best. 997s are a big improvement in many ways but the back ends are not pretty IMHO.

red89

Can you believe that some idiots bought 996s while brand new 993s were available?
Technology, Schmechnology.

Like a blow up doll instead of the real thing.

LAT

Interesting post. FWIW I have owned all (8) but the 996 series and I have in my stable all I want in P-cars. The only change would be if I was doing DE I would get a newer GT3, but mine are strictly street cars.

A properly tuned 993TT, as in Ruf Turbo R or CG 520 HP will keep up to a stock 997TT all day, be as reliable and a ton more fun.

PS, I have the OEM Aerokit on my cab and I can share that at WOT the car is more stable with than without the kit. I have a one handed photo taken at 262 Kph (indicated) with that I could not have taken without.

Quadcammer

Easy does it. There are plenty of reasons to prefer a 996 to a 993. You may not like them, but to call those people that do idiots is ignorant.

red89

???

Quadcammer

better acceleration, more neutral handling, far more modern interior, better insulation, more comfortable, air conditioning that actually keeps the interior cool, etc etc.

red89

I think that's subjective.
I'll agree with how the market values a '98 993 vs a '99 996.

Chuck W.

Very different cars. I agree though, those that bought the '99 996 while the '98 993s were still available would have been better off with the 993. I am guessing you could have gotten one of the last C2S 993s for less than the "all new" 996. Compare the current price and demand for a '98 993 and a '99 996 and you have evidence that the 993s have held their value much better.

Quadcammer

You're absolutely welcome to feel however you wish, but to call people who prefer the 996 idiots is a bit inappropriate.

Parnelli

no Turbo tails? Man, i LIVE for that tail look!! That's what makes the car look like a Porsche. It is the first thing people comment on when they see my '97 TT. Ask anybody who doesn't really know cars very well and even THEY know it (tail car) is a Porsche. W/O the tail they won't know as often.
Either way, though, 993's are the way to go IMO.