End of the World as We Know It Announced
#16
Sharing of the platform doesn't mean re-badging. The Audi TT, A4, VW CC, and Passat are all built on the "A" platform. I wouldn't call them "re-badged."
A VW or Audi on the 911 platform would more likely be an Audi product, as VW tried the upscale thing with the Phaeton and failed. Maybe a Super TT or something.
I still think it is bad for the Porsche brand. But most of the people buying new 911s today could care less weather it's built on an exclusive platform or not. You could bolt the 997 body on an A platform, and sales wouldn't suffer much. The masses just want to say they have a 911...They don't realize that they want to say that because of the history the car has, which has been built by decades of exclusive design and engineering.
It sounds like the current VW CEO doesn't get that concept.
A VW or Audi on the 911 platform would more likely be an Audi product, as VW tried the upscale thing with the Phaeton and failed. Maybe a Super TT or something.
I still think it is bad for the Porsche brand. But most of the people buying new 911s today could care less weather it's built on an exclusive platform or not. You could bolt the 997 body on an A platform, and sales wouldn't suffer much. The masses just want to say they have a 911...They don't realize that they want to say that because of the history the car has, which has been built by decades of exclusive design and engineering.
It sounds like the current VW CEO doesn't get that concept.
#18
Sharing of resources and platforms is nothing new. The Toureg-Cayenne is the current example.
Past joint projects were the 914 and 924. The 924 was originally supposed to be sold as a VW but
when they backed out of the project, Porsche ran with it. The 924 led to the 944 and then the 968.
I'm not ready to push the panic button yet.
Past joint projects were the 914 and 924. The 924 was originally supposed to be sold as a VW but
when they backed out of the project, Porsche ran with it. The 924 led to the 944 and then the 968.
I'm not ready to push the panic button yet.
#20
Without profit there is no progress.
#21
Sharing of the platform doesn't mean re-badging. The Audi TT, A4, VW CC, and Passat are all built on the "A" platform. I wouldn't call them "re-badged."
A VW or Audi on the 911 platform would more likely be an Audi product, as VW tried the upscale thing with the Phaeton and failed. Maybe a Super TT or something.
I still think it is bad for the Porsche brand. But most of the people buying new 911s today could care less weather it's built on an exclusive platform or not. You could bolt the 997 body on an A platform, and sales wouldn't suffer much. The masses just want to say they have a 911...They don't realize that they want to say that because of the history the car has, which has been built by decades of exclusive design and engineering.
It sounds like the current VW CEO doesn't get that concept.
A VW or Audi on the 911 platform would more likely be an Audi product, as VW tried the upscale thing with the Phaeton and failed. Maybe a Super TT or something.
I still think it is bad for the Porsche brand. But most of the people buying new 911s today could care less weather it's built on an exclusive platform or not. You could bolt the 997 body on an A platform, and sales wouldn't suffer much. The masses just want to say they have a 911...They don't realize that they want to say that because of the history the car has, which has been built by decades of exclusive design and engineering.
It sounds like the current VW CEO doesn't get that concept.
I am only concerned with the concessions that will take place in order to share a common platform.
Maybe a one-way valve so the poop doesn't flow back up-stream?
Times, they are a changin'
"We fear change" - Garth Algar
EDIT: I re-read my post and I didn't intend to slam VW products at all. Just concerned over the mxing of parts and subsequent redeisgn of 911 playform to make stuff fit. Hopefully that made sense.
Last edited by MarkD; 10-29-2009 at 04:58 PM.
#23
I certainly agree. I personally believe our 993s are at the bottom of the price range right now. The prices should be steady and eventually up over the years. The few nice low mileage examples remaining in the coming years will probably show real serious value gains, especially when the economy recovers one day.
#24
I certainly agree. I personally believe our 993s are at the bottom of the price range right now. The prices should be steady and eventually up over the years. The few nice low mileage examples remaining in the coming years will probably show real serious value gains, especially when the economy recovers one day.
I couldn't afford one when they were new, but now I can afford one that's like new.
#25
Thank God I have a real one. It may not have varioram, it has a basket handle (which I happen to like) ... I love this car like no others I've had (and I've had some sweet Alfas, an Audi S4, a BMW E46 M3, some nice Saabs and a 2002 996 C4S).....
Speaking of Volkswagon...
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2009...NEWS/910289989
Jeremy Clarkson will have a field day with this one, I can hear him now
"VW has designed and will build in the US a mid-sized saloon just for the US market. Lexus styling,additional cupholders and US build quality, just what the fat Americans need,another crappy car"
Speaking of Volkswagon...
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2009...NEWS/910289989
Jeremy Clarkson will have a field day with this one, I can hear him now
"VW has designed and will build in the US a mid-sized saloon just for the US market. Lexus styling,additional cupholders and US build quality, just what the fat Americans need,another crappy car"